11 days out - a QB Poll

My draft:

11: Dallas Turner, DE Alabama
23: Byron Murphy DT Texas

Roll with Sam

savannahskol wrote:
My draft:

11: Dallas Turner, DE Alabama
23: Byron Murphy DT Texas

Roll with Sam

I think Dallas Turner is about to be a Falcon. Would love Murphy at 23.

11: Michael Penix
23: Byron Murphy

the correct answer will likely be "other than above"

Go get Maye!

If we do what Savannah suggests and "roll with Sam," I think in many ways that's the riskiest option of all for KAM. If the Vikes do that and Darnold stinks, which every armchair QB on earth could have at least partially seen coming, Kwesi's seat will be hotter than fish grease. Especially if more than a couple of these rookie QBs pan out.

StickierBuns wrote:
IMO, I think we've covered all scenarios on this board over the course of the last 30+ days. Usually, but not always, the Draft turns out to be a lot less dramatic than the mocks might have you believe. But there are a lot of QBs that have talent this year, maybe as many as 6 that will go in the top probably 45 picks. Some of these mocks that have 6 QBs going in the top 15 picks are silly, JMO.

Yah, its all been discussed, I'm glad its next week - finally. 

I'm still not convinced all 6 of these guys dont go b4 the first rd is over. I think one of the reasons there is so much QB talent (on paper) in this draft is due to Covid a couple years back. 

Its a bit unusual in that regard.

We haven't been this close to drafting a potential franchise QB for a long, long time. It's time to pull the trigger on one of the better classes of QBs. If they are high on Daniels or Maye, they have to take a shot. I chose Maye at 3 but it could just as easily be Daniels at 3, whichever they like. If they like Penix or Nix better, I will trust their judgment as they keep more draft assets.

I struggle to have a preference, as I just don’t follow the prospects in the draft anymore to really develop an affinity towards players or rank them accurately in tiers. Statistically, I think they are better off minimizing the amount of draft capital spent in getting a QB and instead spend more draft capital in getting multiple swings at a QB, so I feel like I’m kind of limited to JJM, Nix, and Penix either at 11 or with a moderate trade up. I just don’t really believe that any GM can predict accurately enough who will succeed and who will bust, so I think they’re better off taking more shots more frequently. If they believe in JJM more than the others and only use 11 and 23 and maybe a late round pick swap to get him, that’s about where my comfort level ends.

StickierBuns wrote:
The recent narrative is that Penix and Nix aren't 1st round QBs.

That is why I'm surprised there are more votes to go that route at 11 than trading up for Maye or Daniels.  This poll is asking what you'd prefer, and I would certainly prefer to get one of the top QB prospects in a trade up than reaching for lesser prospects at 11 all just to be able to grab another player at 23.

savannahskol wrote:
My draft: 

11:  Dallas Turner, DE Alabama
23:  Byron Murphy DT Texas

Roll with Sam

You'd love to add that to the defense. And I do think Sam Darnold is going to have a bit of a breakout. But he just throws too many picks. And that isn't going to just go away. You gotta get the QB.

StickierBuns wrote:
The recent narrative is that Penix and Nix aren't 1st round QBs.

Without considering position value, no they're not. But neither is JJ. Still, I'd bet my Chazz Surratt jersey that all 6 go in the 1st round.

Another thing that seems funny to me is I remember all the complaining about Zimmer drafting defense, building a top defense, and getting a game manager at QB (Teddy, Bradford, etc). Lots of complaining about that and saying we need a franchise QB to win it all... Now we have some fans wanting to roll with Darnold and go defense with our first two picks? I'm puzzled...

StickierBuns wrote:
The ol' stick and pick:

https://www.nfl.com/news/peter-schrager-2024-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-giants-leap-up-for-j-j-mccarthy-vikings-stick-and-pick-cb-qb

Oh my. I don't hate Nix, but I wouldn't take him before Penix. I don't hate Arnold either, but I wouldn't take him before Mitchell. I wouldn't take a corner over a DT like Murphy either. This would be a sort of worst-case draft for me.

I'm leaning towards Nixs at 23 and if he gets scooped up then oh well. We'll likely suck this next year anyway. Murphy would look pretty nice in purple at 11.

MAD GAINZ wrote:

That is why I'm surprised there are more votes to go that route at 11 than trading up for Maye or Daniels.  This poll is asking what you'd prefer, and I would certainly prefer to get one of the top QB prospects in a trade up than reaching for lesser prospects at 11 all just to be able to grab another player at 23.

I think a lot of fans believe (rightly so) that drafting a qb is a crapshoot, other holes to fill, may not be a big separation across the top 4 vs bottom 2.

So might as well get two players instead of 1 

Our starting qb is a poster child for crapshoot. 

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