OT: Cars

StickierBuns wrote:

In all honesty, I hate buying cars. Such a colossal waste of money. Wife just got a new BMW SUV like 4 years ago and she'll have it for 15+ years for sure. If you can buy quality in whatever price range you're looking at and keep that car as long as you can, that's the only way to win with depreciation and cars. We also don't put a ton of miles on our cars.

We're the same, wife puts on maybe 6k miles/year.

You're not alone, most people hate having to buy vehicles and most dealers suck at customer experience.

I wont buy new anymore, give me Certified Pre Owned and a fair priced extended warranty and I'm good to go. Let someone else take the $20k depreciation hit driving off the lot.

Canthony wrote:

I was a Sales Manager at a Honda Store in MN at my last job. Funny thing is, they actually have 368 issues per 100 cars according to JD Power and in 2018 that number was almost a 1:1 ratio. We always get these reports sent to us for various things. Issues per 100 cars they are below middle of the pack now. Their engines and transmissions are bullet proof for the most part. Just do your maintenance. We had the biggest Service Shops in MN for a Honda location. The issues now are all the tech that are on these vehicles. We replaced a lot of infotainment systems. The driver assist features are incredibly unreliable. Much more reliable in a higher end vehicle. Their tech and driving assist features are less than desirable and dependable in many circumstances. Many brake issues and fuel problems within the Hondas as well.

That is great that you bought her a CR-V! They are great for and father buying it for their daughter. What year CR-V?

2014

The most well built vehicle I’ve owned was a 2011 Toyota 4Runner. The build quality was incredible. The usual squeaks and whistles I’d expected over the miles never materialized. The 4.0l V6 is incredible. I always wondered how well it would hold up supercharged or turbo charged. It got fairly lousy gas mileage and that is the only fault I ever had with it. When I hit 100k, it still rode and felt like it was brand new. Only maintenance and tires ever required.

We’ve owned numerous Acuras over the years and they’ve been pretty solid. They had a few issues, one with a fuel pump that required replacement, but every issue was covered by Acura. The Hondas are not bulletproof, but the brand backs them.

Ram: I currently have 2023 1500 Hemi with 3.73 gears made for max towing. It tows more like a 3/4 ton. Interior is fantastic. Best truck I’ve owned, but since we are probably selling the camper (kid is too busy), I’m looking at performance vehicles now. Older used like Audi S7, BMW M series, Lexus RC F, Jag,, Mercedes etc. I’ll take any recommendations!

Havoc wrote:

The most well built vehicle I’ve owned was a 2011 Toyota 4Runner. The build quality was incredible. The usual squeaks and whistles I’d expected over the miles never materialized. The 4.0l V6 is incredible. I always wondered how well it would hold up supercharged or turbo charged. It got fairly lousy gas mileage and that is the only fault I ever had with it. When I hit 100k, it still rode and felt like it was brand new. Only maintenance and tires ever required.
We’ve owned numerous Acuras over the years and they’ve been pretty solid. They had a few issues, one with a fuel pump that required replacement, but every issue was covered by Acura. The Hondas are not bulletproof, but the brand backs them.
Ram: I currently have 2023 1500 Hemi with 3.73 gears made for max towing. It tows more like a 3/4 ton. Interior is fantastic. Best truck I’ve owned, but since we are probably selling the camper (kid is too busy), I’m looking at performance vehicles now. Older used like Audi S7, BMW M series, Lexus RC F, Jag,, Mercedes etc. I’ll take any recommendations!

I would tell u that you dont have to go full out "M" to get a great driving/handling BMW...You can go M lite (also referred to as Msport). They are less $$, less temperamental and less to upkeep (I.e. oil changes etc.)

Trust me on this, I drove them 30+ years...I've owned 4 full-out M cars over that time and LOVED every one of them, but the option within the brand is Msport - and BMW inline 6 is one of the silkiest motors out there.

Iove the Audi S7 too - beautiful car!! The regular A7 would be nice too.

Personally, I could not recommend Jag...Terrible quality, sexy automobiles nonetheless.

MaroonBells wrote:

Yep, I spent the last couple months on those lots discovering what everyone else already seemed to know about Hondas and Toyotas...and why they tend to cost a little more in the year, mileage, price formula.
I drove German cars for years (mostly Audis), and while I love their styling and performance, they just started nickel and diming me to death.
This video is what inspired my research...and very likely why my daughter's not currently driving a Nissan with a CVT transmission. :-)

Yes, European cars are top performance but maintenance is a killer.