JimmyinSD wrote:

"oh really?" ~ Adrian Peterson

I asked AI: What was the timeline between when it came out that adrian peterson hit his kid with a switch, when the trial was over and when the league suspended him?

Here is it's response:

The Timeline

Summary of the Gaps

• Incident → Indictment: about 4 months (May 18 → Sept. 12, 2014). The case didn't become public until the grand jury indictment in September.

• Indictment → Legal resolution (plea): roughly 2 months (Sept. 12 → Nov. 4, 2014). The plea deal short-circuited a trial that had been tentatively set for Dec. 1.

• Plea → NFL suspension: just 2 weeks (Nov. 4 → Nov. 18, 2014). The league waited for the criminal case to conclude before issuing discipline.

• Suspension → Earliest reinstatement: roughly 5 months (Nov. 18, 2014 → April 15, 2015), though the actual length depended on Peterson completing the mandated counseling program.

So from the original incident in May 2014 to the NFL's suspension in November 2014, roughly six months elapsed; from the case going public (indictment) to suspension was about two months, with the legal case wrapping up via plea deal in between.

RS_Express wrote:

Not a chance. We don't get those breaks. Remember 2022? DeAndre Hopkins gets suspended 6 games for AZ. Schedule comes out. We played AZ week 8...his first game back.
Guaranteed with a Packer involved we're going to get the "let the justice system play out" spiel 🙄

Sometimes I just LOOOOOVE being wrong 😎

Now watch the RB2 whose name we don't even know go for 115 on 24 carries😏

medaille wrote:

I asked AI: What was the timeline between when it came out that adrian peterson hit his kid with a switch, when the trial was over and when the league suspended him?

Here is it's response:
The TimelineDate
Event
Sunday, May 18, 2014
Peterson disciplined his 4-year-old son with a "switch" (a thin wooden tree branch) at his home in Spring, Texas, after the boy pushed another of Peterson's sons off a motorbike video game. The discipline left bruises and lacerations on the child's back, legs, arms and buttocks. 1
Friday, Sept. 12, 2014
A grand jury in Montgomery County, Texas, indicted Peterson on a felony charge of reckless or negligent injury to a child.
Sept. 12–13, 2014
The Vikings swiftly benched/deactivated Peterson, and he turned himself in to authorities. 68
Sept. 17, 2014
Minnesota placed Peterson on the exempt/commissioner's permission list (essentially paid leave) while the case proceeded. 1
Tuesday, Nov. 4, 2014
Peterson pleaded no contest to a reduced charge of misdemeanor reckless assault as part of a plea deal, avoiding jail time. He was fined $4,000, ordered to perform 80 hours of community service, and placed on deferred adjudication (probation) for two years. A tentative trial date of Dec. 1 had been set before the plea. 27
Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2014
The NFL suspended Peterson without pay for at least the remainder of the 2014 season for violating the Personal Conduct Policy. Commissioner Roger Goodell's letter said he could not be considered for reinstatement before April 15, 2015, and that reinstatement would depend on completing a counseling/treatment program. 35
Nov. 20, 2014
The NFL Players Association appealed the suspension, arguing the league applied a newly changed personal-conduct policy to an incident that occurred months before those changes. 4
Summary of the GapsIncident → Indictment: about 4 months (May 18 → Sept. 12, 2014). The case didn't become public until the grand jury indictment in September.
Indictment → Legal resolution (plea): roughly 2 months (Sept. 12 → Nov. 4, 2014). The plea deal short-circuited a trial that had been tentatively set for Dec. 1.
Plea → NFL suspension: just 2 weeks (Nov. 4 → Nov. 18, 2014). The league waited for the criminal case to conclude before issuing discipline.
Suspension → Earliest reinstatement: roughly 5 months (Nov. 18, 2014 → April 15, 2015), though the actual length depended on Peterson completing the mandated counseling program.
So from the original incident in May 2014 to the NFL's suspension in November 2014, roughly six months elapsed; from the case going public (indictment) to suspension was about two months, with the legal case wrapping up via plea deal in between.

He was benched/ deactivated/ paid leave, you think that was his idea? That was the start of his suspension, regardless of what they called it.

JimmyinSD wrote:

He was benched/ deactivated/ paid leave, you think that was his idea? That was the start of his suspension, regardless of what they called it.

We're talking about how the league schedules suspensions no? The Vikings initiated his being put on the list so they could get the roster spot back rather than being forced to suspend him themselves or play him and face the publicity backlash, I think this is more on the Vikings than the league.

medaille wrote:

We're talking about how the league schedules suspensions no? The Vikings initiated his being put on the list so they could get the roster spot back rather than being forced to suspend him themselves or play him and face the publicity backlash, I think this is more on the Vikings than the league.

I'm pretty sure the NFL told the Vikings to put him on there so they didn't have to force the issue and do it themselves. Less backlash to the Shield if the Vikings "do it" vs the NFL arbitrarily placing him on it without the legal matter being sorted out. The NFLPA would make a big stink if the NFL Front Office put him on it and then suspended him for additional games beyond the ones he missed by being on the list.

MAD GAINZ wrote:

I'm pretty sure the NFL told the Vikings to put him on there so they didn't have to force the issue and do it themselves. Less backlash to the Shield if the Vikings "do it" vs the NFL arbitrarily placing him on it without the legal matter being sorted out. The NFLPA would make a big stink if the NFL Front Office put him on it and then suspended him for additional games beyond the ones he missed by being on the list.

Thats how I remember it as well, the call came from Goodell, even if it wasnt made public, there was a lot of smoke that it came at the leagues request.

The Commissioner is the only one that can make the call. The teams don't have authority to just decide if a player is going to take a paid leave and receive a roster exemption. They can only ask the commissioner to do it.

Obviously, we're not privy to any private communications between the teams and the league, so there may be some times where what's reported could be wrong, or there's a lack of reporting and that could also be under-informed.

There have been times when the Commissioner has been requested by the team to put the player on the list. There's a smaller amount of times where there has been no reporting on a team request and it appears that the commissioner did it on his own prerogative.

Regardless, it's pretty much semantics, but at this point, with Jacobs on the list, his Trial is scheduled for November 17th. He will likely be on the list until a little after his Trial date, then get suspended for another 4-6 weeks or possibly the rest of the season since the timeline is so close to that anyway. It could be shortened up a bit if he accepts a plea deal in advance of that trial, but I think if that is the case, the league probably just adjusts everything so he doesn't come back for the last handful of games of the season.

If Green Bay feels they can be a NFC contender, and I think they do believe that, they need to trade for a RB. Probably come up the 'loser' on comp, but get it done to help the team right now. We'll see if that happens.

StickierBuns wrote:

If Green Bay feels they can be a NFC contender, and I think they do believe that, they need to trade for a RB. Probably come up the 'loser' on comp, but get it done to help the team right now. We'll see if that happens.

They traded a 2028 6th for Kaleb Johnson from Pittsburgh yesterday.

RS_Express wrote:

They traded a 2028 6th for Kaleb Johnson from Pittsburgh yesterday.

Yeah, not the kind of move I'm talking about. If Kaleb Johnson raced a bulldozer 10 times, he'd lose 4 of them.....

How convenient:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49794123/packers-not-seen-video-josh-jacobs-case-gm-says

He'll be 29 years old in February....and 2027 is the last year on his contract. He could be cut easily this offseason with a small dead cap hit.

StickierBuns wrote:

How convenient:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49794123/packers-not-seen-video-josh-jacobs-case-gm-says
He'll be 29 years old in February....and 2027 is the last year on his contract. He could be cut easily this offseason with a small dead cap hit.

Our RB room is going to be pretty empty in 27 with Mason/Jones both out of contracts.

Just sayin...

Just kidding

Josh Jacobs' court appearance moved up to Sept. 10

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Packers running back Josh Jacobs' initial court appearance on misdemeanor charges has been moved up more than two months.

Jacobs, who was charged with battery and criminal destruction of property, is now scheduled to appear Sept. 10 at 11 a.m. CT at the Brown County courthouse, after initially being scheduled for Nov. 17, according to Wisconsin court records.

Messages left for the district attorney and Jacobs' lawyers seeking explanation for the date change have not been returned.

ESPN

No behind the scenes finagling going on there...what bullshit

I honestly don't blame the Packers or Jacobs for this. Back in 2014 Adrian Peterson missed 15 games, then was given credit for time served when his 8-game suspension came down. So he missed 7 more games than he was officially suspended for. No surprise the Packers don't want that to happen to them.

The Packers and Jacobs want this trial over and done no matter what the verdict. Then the NFL can decide his suspension quickly without Jacobs hanging on the exempt list for the whole year.

Besides, assuming a 6-game suspension and having it start week 1, it might be to the Vikings' advantage to have Jacobs back for the Pack for their Weel 7 game vs Detroit 😏