Our Quarterbacks
These are my thoughts after a very limited sample of exhibition game action. All thoughts to be served with a grain of salt!
Kyler - he looked about like I expected. Didn't set the world on fire, but he can deliver the ball when he needs to. I think KOC went run heavy to avoid contact for his #1, no need to put him in harm's way for a nothing game. He needs all those #1 camp reps to get better timing down with his targets and keep learning this offense. He should look better as the season goes on and that stuff settles in.
JJM - well surprisingly I thought he looked better in one area, which was delivering the ball on time from a clean pocket. Last year he struggled even with that. His accuracy is still suspect but again, maybe a little better from a clean pocket.
The problem is when he's under pressure. He honestly to me looks like he might have regressed and he was already really bad. His go-to move when it turns chaotic is a sidearm sling from his upper body, with no base or discernable footwork at all. This is going to be an off-target ball or an interception 90% of the time in the NFL.
I don't know how you fix that, even if he were playing all the games and he's likely to just be practicing. I maintain that the best thing for him would be to go play in the CFL or USFL where he could get constant live reps for some team and learn to play under pressure. If that learning is possible, I don't know if it is.
Carson - was exactly what I expected. This guy can look like an all-pro on one play and a total dud on the next. He is a roller coaster and it's not game to game or even half to half or series to series, it's like every other play. He's good enough to backup but he's not leading anyone to a title if he has to take over a season for an injured guy. Right now I'd put him slightly above JJ for #2 but honestly that is only because he can in fact deliver under pressure more often than JJ and has a ton of experience in the NFL.
Max Gopher - ya gotta love our little Golden Gopher but he seems somewhat snakebitten. He gets in a game and throws the underhanded pick six in Seattle, or has 3 net yards passing against Detroit, or plays one series today and goes out with an injury. I think he eventually will do a KOC path and become a QB coach somewhere. I like him but I don't think he's destined to even be a backup in the NFL.
2026 will make it the 4th new QB1 on opening day since 2022:
Cousins
Darnold
McCarthy
Murray
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
purplefaithful wrote:
2026 will make it the 4th new QB1 on opening day since 2022:
Cousins
Darnold
McCarthy
Murray
Because this franchise has all the foresight of a grasshopper when it comes to positioning ourselves to get a good one. Been that way since I was in a crib.
pattersaur wrote:
Because this franchise has all the foresight of a grasshopper when it comes to positioning ourselves to get a good one. Been that way since I was in a crib.
I think they should get some points with the intent of drafting a QB at 10..
My grandpa used to say "people plan and the lord laughs"
He was right too.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
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Nothing more needs to be said.....other than Minnesota has won an amazing amount of regular seasons wins during that time with so many QBs.
pattersaur wrote:
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...and if you included all the QBs who've started games for us, you'd need a bar about twice that long.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
—George Orwell
I always thought of the Bears as having by far the worst QB situation, but that is really embarrassing. I would say Culpepper is one of the only ones that standouts as a true franchise QB who was in his prime at the time and not recycled. And of course possibly the guy we let walk recently 😀
Of all the QBs the one that sticks out and turns my stomach as the most embarrassing and worst moment for our franchise is Favre and it is not close. Seeing him on the list totally repels me, not someone that was easy to root for and the reminder that he is part of our history make me wish we could erase his face from the list.
StickierBuns wrote:
Nothing more needs to be said.....other than Minnesota has won an amazing amount of regular seasons wins during that time with so many QBs.
To land THAT GUY at QB you either gotta get lucky or plan ahead. The Vikings franchise has shown an unwillingness to plan ahead (right or wrong) and we all know how the luck around here works. It's why the JJ McCarthy saga stings more than it otherwise would for a different franchise. Sigh. Someday.
pattersaur wrote:
To land THAT GUY at QB you either gotta get lucky or plan ahead. The Vikings franchise has shown an unwillingness to plan ahead (right or wrong) and we all know how the luck around here works. It's why the JJ McCarthy saga stings more than it otherwise would for a different franchise. Sigh. Someday.
Or just not have your top 10 QB lose a year and a 1/2 of development due to injury after injury. We can only imagine where he'd be today if his trajectory was injury free.
Culpepper, Bradford, Bridgewater, McCarthy all share something in common.
We'll see how this year goes...Despite the objections of JIT, I can't help but believe NT is going to dip into 27 QB pool in some way.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
purplefaithful wrote:
Or just not have your top 10 QB lose a year and a 1/2 of development due to injury after injury. We can only imagine where he'd be today if his trajectory was injury free.
Culpepper, Bradford, Bridgewater, McCarthy all share something in common.
We'll see how this year goes...Despite the objections of JIT, I can't help but believe NT is going to dip into 27 QB pool in some way.
JJ was the 5th QB taken in that draft and is an example of the Vikings failure to do what's necessary in order to get a top pick, when the time is right. Teams like the Patriots don't go from the best in the league for years to the #3 overall pick, right back to the best in the league by accident.
pattersaur wrote:
JJ was the 5th QB taken in that draft and is an example of the Vikings failure to do what's necessary in order to get a top pick, when the time is right. Teams like the Patriots don't go from the best in the league for years to the #3 overall pick, right back to the best in the league by accident.
I think we’d be having a very different discussion if Maye had missed 2/3 rds of his first two years while McCarthy stayed on the field. You can’t gameplan for anything like that.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
purplefaithful wrote:
I think we’d be having a very different discussion if Maye had missed 2/3 rds of his first two years while McCarthy stayed on the field. You can’t gameplan for anything like that.
The QB we selected either missed the game, got hurt in the game or left the game due to injury in 29 of his 34 games...and it's KOC's fault.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
—George Orwell
MaroonBells wrote:
The QB we selected either missed the game, got hurt in the game or left the game due to injury in 29 of his 34 games...and it's KOC's fault.
that’s pretty crazy stats btw..downright depressing
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
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