So next year lol

AGRforever wrote:
This team is cooked. We’re overblown on salary cap going into next year. Harry and Theilen retire. With Kelly’s concussion issues something needs to get done there?  

I can’t imagine Jones is back on anything close to his current salary. 

At least JJM will get plenty of reps when he’s healthy. We should have a decent draft pick if things keep going this way.

This has been my contention all along...this was not to be the Vikings' year.  This year was to set the groundwork for next year or the following year.  Here's to one or two successful free agent signings and drafts in the future.

This kind of season is why I don’t get excited over the Vikings anymore. It’s always, next year. They’re laying the groundwork every year for next year.
Salary cap issues were the problem, o line was the problem, d line was the problem. It never all comes together. It never will at this rate. The Wilf’s don’t know how to build a championship organization. I don’t think Kwesi does either. KOC, is good, sometimes, but gets stuck in his own head other times.
After 2017, I stopped expecting anything from the Vikings, and just appreciated the occasional very good season. A Super Bowl win won’t happen in my lifetime.
This isn’t because of this game, it’s just coming to the realization that the Vikings aren’t meant to be champions.

I'll joke about the Vikings curse, but I really dont believe it...

I kinda figured 9 wins was the floor this year and at 2/2 and a rook qb? I still think thats the case.

Frustrating game today, but I aint ready to throw the towel in at .500 and 13 games left to play ;)

Riphawkins wrote:
This kind of season is why I don’t get excited over the Vikings anymore. It’s always, next year. They’re laying the groundwork every year for next year. Salary cap issues were the problem, o line was the problem, d line was the problem. It never all comes together. It never will at this rate. The Wilf’s don’t know how to build a championship organization. I don’t think Kwesi does either. KOC, is good, sometimes, but gets stuck in his own head other times. After 2017, I stopped expecting anything from the Vikings, and just appreciated the occasional very good season. A Super Bowl win won’t happen in my lifetime. This isn’t because of this game, it’s just coming to the realization that the Vikings aren’t meant to be champions.

A rookie at QB wasn’t going to win the Super Bowl. I don’t care how ready he is/was. 

I just can’t get over how many OL injuries we have. It’s not like we didn’t try lol

Today was the result of hiring a GM with no experience. You can't keep throwing draft picks away. If it wasn't for Turner's stupid penalty, no one would have know he was in the game, not just a 1st rounder, but 3 valuable picks to move up for him. Injuries are part of the game, you have to build depth to overcome them and throwing away draft picks the way Kam does has done this team in.

I think we have the injury bug this year. today we had a chance  and everything went the steelers way except blocked fg.but if pace catches that ball I think it's a td return . Metcalf killed us early  but then we made adjustments .outside the injury I feel better as a viking fan  than a steelers  fan should feel about the win.

JR44 wrote:
Today was the result of hiring a GM with no experience.  You can't keep throwing draft picks away.  If it wasn't for Turner's stupid penalty, no one would have know he was in the game, not just a 1st rounder, but 3 valuable picks to move up for him.  Injuries are part of the game, you have to build depth to overcome them and throwing away draft picks the way Kam does has done this team in.

We have depth. We have somewhere around 18 OL out. As is our QB, RB, FB, 3rd TE on offense alone.

AGRforever wrote:

We have depth. We have somewhere around 18 OL out. As is our QB, RB, FB, 3rd TE on offense alone.

We do not have quality depth, backups need to be able to come in and step up, today the direct backups Skule, Turner and Jurgens were all awful, even Brandel has been poor.  Injuries can't be an excuse, you need to build a roster expecting that and you can't do that when you consistently throw away draft pick in addition to atrocious drafting, 

Out of 4 drafts we have Addison as the only proven player, the two years before that, for all the grief Spelman took, we drafted two of the best players in the game right now in Jefferson and Darrisaw, no way Kwesi would have picked either guy.

JR44 wrote:

We do not have quality depth, backups need to be able to come in and step up, today the direct backups Skule, Turner and Jurgens were all awful, even Brandel has been poor.  Injuries can't be an excuse, you need to build a roster expecting that and you can't do that when you consistently throw away draft pick in addition to atrocious drafting, 

Out of 4 drafts we have Addison as the only proven player, the two years before that, for all the grief Spelman took, we drafted two of the best players in the game right now in Jefferson and Darrisaw, no way Kwesi would have picked either guy.

I’d take Spielman back in a heartbeat but it’s not happening. Had he swallowed his pride and worked better with Zimmer he’d still be employed.

KOC is the right coach. I don’t think you get around KAM and keep KOC

AGRforever wrote:

I’d take Spielman back in a heartbeat but it’s not happening. Had he swallowed his pride and worked better with Zimmer he’d still be employed.

KOC is the right coach. I don’t think you get around KAM and keep KOC

I'm not even convinced KOC is the right coach at this point. For all the media accolades...someone wake me up when he wins a playoff game

Yep, she’s warming up the pipes… :P

Damn, kids, hurry to give up on the season before all the best quit-b***h seats are taken!

It'd be a shame not to have a good table at the "Whine for Cheese" bar....

I know it’s coach speak to say “injuries are not an excuse” and it’s just “next man up.” But damn, let’s be realistic. Starters are starters for a reason. Backups are backups for a reason. There is a talent gap between the two and it is only made worse because that back up hasn’t (for the most part) gotten the reps needed to help him prepare. We have just been decimated with injuries this season. That’s bound to have a negative effect. Our only hope is second and third string players grow into their roles and that karma swings back in our direction. No need to point fingers. We just gotta be patient and hope the shitstorm passes quickly.

Its always interesting how some fans wait for shit bad to happen and then they post...or post more often. Waiting for the opportunity to pounce and mention that everything sucks. Online is 10x worse. The team should have done this, should have done that, I never like coach X or player x, etc.

My thought was always the team would or could be pretty good but it was never Superbowl level. This narrative that the team was a Formula One racing car and all they needed was a regular driver was lofty IMO. But Wentz is a backup type talent now, he's been with the team a month, injuries have mounted ridiculously and here we are. The newly formed O-line didn't play one snap together....and it looks like they won't this year. And McCarthy is a rookie who will have ups and downs, played in two whole games so far in his career. Gink and Cashman are important celebral parts of the D. I mean at one point, we had a backup OG playing center yesterday.

It sucks. Games are about more than stats, Jefferson and Addison both had over 100 yards receiving yet the game wasnt as close as the final score. Jalen Hurts threw for 130 yards yesterday...and Philly won. Jaxson Dart threw for 111 yards....and WON. The 350 that Wentz threw were useless in the context of this particular game.