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Caleb Williams

MaroonBells
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How bad was Caleb? Very

"All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my hand." —Steven Wright

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#1 · Sep 9, 8:05 AM
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Let’s hope there’s several more years of that!!

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#2 · Sep 9, 8:34 AM CT
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Caleb does have a long ways to go...I think he'll be just fine though.

Are the Bears paws a little dirty having him start so early?

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#3 · Sep 9, 9:43 AM CT
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Game looks way too fast for him right now and he wasn't that good from the pocket in college. NFL speed is way different. Lots of times he hit the top of his drop and the ball isn't out... with the talent they have at WR, someone is NFL open.

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#4 · Sep 9, 9:57 AM CT
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"All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my hand." —Steven Wright

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#5 · Sep 9, 10:01 AM CT
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That OL is going to get ANYONE back there killed.

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#6 · Sep 9, 12:16 PM CT
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Ok, so its early. Just get that out of the way. But.....accuracy was never his game. The media hyped and crowned his ass before he was ever drafted. He's got a long way to go be a NFL QB. A LONG way. Horrible footwork. That was a bad run of video right there.

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#7 · Sep 9, 1:10 PM CT
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I'm sure he will get better, but it's probably going to be a process. Rome Oduze having an MRI on his knees today which doesn't help Williams cause.

Early overreaction is the Lions are still the class of the division (how about that bust Jameson Williams?) Packers have no shot without Jordan Love. Bears will be a work in progress, and our guys in purple...we'll find out over the next few weeks but week 1 was encouraging. Going to be a fun, competitive division to watch all year.

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#8 · Sep 9, 1:19 PM CT
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supafreak84 wrote:
I'm sure he will get better, but it's probably going to be a process. Rome Oduze having an MRI on his knees today which doesn't help Williams cause.

Early overreaction is the Lions are still the class of the division (how about that bust Jameson Williams?) Packers have no shot without Jordan Love. Bears will be a work in progress, and our guys in purple...we'll find out over the next few weeks but week 1 was encouraging. Going to be a fun, competitive division to watch all year.

At the bold...

I'm sure he'll get better too. 

Manning and Aikman struggled their rook years and are HOF. I'm not predicting anything for the kid, including him being the next Trubisky. 

But he wasn't the #1 overall pick without some pretty high upside. 

He's quirky and does his own thing, which is going to rub some fans in all the wrong ways. 

Only reason I wont root for him is cause he's a Bear.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#9 · Sep 9, 2:45 PM CT
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His accuracy is not good, and I didn't notice it that much looking at his college film. The only reason they won that game yesterday was that Will Levis was actually worse than Caleb.

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#10 · Sep 9, 8:08 PM CT
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I thought it was interesting how much some of these coaches put on their rookies plate rather than give them help. Bo Nix threw it 40 times in his debut. Jayden Daniels had 40 combined passes and rushes.

Conventional wisdom would suggest you run the ball pretty heavily and make life easier for your QB while they're getting acclimated.

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#11 · Sep 10, 6:37 AM CT
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purplefaithful wrote:
At the bold... I'm sure he'll get better too.  Manning and Aikman struggled their rook years and are HOF. I'm not predicting anything for the kid, including him being the next Trubisky.  But he wasn't the #1 overall pick without some pretty high upside.  He's quirky and does his own thing, which is going to rub some fans in all the wrong ways.  Only reason I wont root for him is cause he's a Bear.
Plenty of stories about #1 picks that went bust at the QB spot.
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#12 · Sep 10, 8:53 AM CT
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comet52 wrote:
His accuracy is not good, and I didn't notice it that much looking at his college film.  The only reason they won that game yesterday was that Will Levis was actually worse than Caleb.

I know CHI has a good defense but I was surprised how bad Levis looked. Wonder if he'll turn it around. If he doesn't soon, TEN will be drafting QB in April.

Bryce Young I thought would take a step forward too. NOPE. Probably safe to call that prediction wrong lol.

Kirk I have said all along I had serious concerns about his Achilles, so his dud wasn't surprising to me. Why everyone was giving him a clean bill of health all summer, I'm still not sure. Rodgers is old but he had more zip on his throws than Kirk to my eyes. He also has had longer to recover.

Overall, QB play leaguewide wasn't great on Sunday. TDs and passing yards are down drastically YOY, likely due to no one playing much in the preseason.

Of all the QBs, Darnold was probably the one who played "above his head" the most, versus what people thought might happen. Baker and Carr too.

Fun weekend, so glad NFL is back.

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#13 · Sep 10, 9:02 AM CT
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Darnold is going on year 7 and I was hoping they kept him to 30 or > pass attempts on Sunday.

Those are crazy #'s for a rook qb, game 1.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#14 · Sep 10, 9:17 AM CT
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StickierBuns wrote:

Plenty of stories about #1 picks that went bust at the QB spot.

I wonder if more QBs taken #1 overall go bust than succeed. Or maybe even widen it to top 10 now that teams go nuts taking 2nd and 3rd round (or lower, Trey Lance) QB prospects at the top of the draft.

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#15 · Sep 10, 9:23 AM CT
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medaille wrote:
I thought it was interesting how much some of these coaches put on their rookies plate rather than give them help.  Bo Nix threw it 40 times in his debut.  Jayden Daniels had 40 combined passes and rushes. Conventional wisdom would suggest you run the ball pretty heavily and make life easier for your QB while they're getting acclimated.
Good observation. I think we've all read a bunch of stories this offseason about franchises having 'dirty hands', but not seeing many washing them in the sink. Same ol', same ol'.
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#16 · Sep 10, 12:00 PM CT
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comet52 wrote:
I wonder if more QBs taken #1 overall go bust than succeed.  Or maybe even widen it to top 10 now that teams go nuts taking 2nd and 3rd round (or lower, Trey Lance) QB prospects at the top of the draft.
Here's the complete list: Year Player (College) Team 2023 Bryce Young (Alabama) Carolina Panthers 2021 Trevor Lawrence (Clemson) Jacksonville Jaguars 2020 Joe Burrow (LSU) Cincinnati Bengals 2019 Kyler Murray (Oklahoma) Arizona Cardinals 2018 Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma) Cleveland Browns 2016 Jared Goff (California) St. Louis Rams 2015 Jameis Winston (Florida State) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2012 Andrew Luck (Stanford) Indianapolis Colts 2011 Cam Newton (Auburn) Carolina Panhers 2010 Sam Bradford (Oklahoma) St. Louis Rams 2009 Matthew Stafford (Georgia) Detroit Lions 2007 JaMarcus Russell (LSU) Oakland Raiders 2005 Alex Smith (Utah) San Francisco 49ers 2004 Eli Manning (Ole Miss) San Diego Chargers 2003 Carson Palmer (USC) Cincinnati Bengals 2002 David Carr (Fresno State) Houston Texans 2001 Michael Vick (Virginia Tech) Atlanta Falcons 1999 Tim Couch (Kentucky) Cleveland Browns 1998 Peyton Manning (Tennessee) Indianapolis Colts 1993 Drew Bledsoe (Washington State) New England Patriots 1990 Jeff George (Illinois) Indianapolis Colts 1989 Troy Aikman (UCLA) Dallas Cowboys 1987 Vinny Testaverde (Miami) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1983 John Elway (Stanford) Baltimore Colts 1975 Steve Bartkowski (California) Atlanta Falcons 1971 Jim Plunkett (Stanford) New England Patriots 1970 Terry Bradshaw (Louisiana Tech) Pittsburgh Steelers 1963 Terry Baker (Oregon State) Los Angeles Rams 1959 Randy Duncan (Iowa) Green Bay Packers 1958 King Hill (Rice) Chicago Cardinals 1955 George Shaw (Oregon) Baltimore Colts 1954 Bobby Garrett (Stanford) Cleveland Browns 1952 Bill Wade (Vanderbilt) Los Angeles Rams 1946 Frank Dancewicz (Notre Dame) Boston Yanks 1944 Angelo Bertelli (Notre Dame) Boston Yanks
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