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Jones has had two contracts in the NFL so far.
His first from 2019 was $25,664, 4 years, fully guaranteed.
His extension in 2023, as has been well-chronicled was a 4-year $160mm deal, with a total $92mm guaranteed.
So since 2019, he's been able to pocket $117,664,000 +/-, not including the $375,000 he made signing with the Vikings.
He's still young.
I am going to forecast here that in order to reinvigorate his career in the NFL, he will seriously look at a full year studying under KOC and will be ready on a moment's notice to step in if JJM falters. I'm going out on a limb here that he's going to look at the long game, since he's already made over $100mm and will sign for $5-7mm+/- as the Vikings backup for one year.
Talk about going out on a limb with my prediction...
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(02-07-2025, 11:32 AM)Montana Tom Wrote: Jones has had two contracts in the NFL so far.
His first from 2019 was $25,664, 4 years, fully guaranteed.
His extension in 2023, as has been well-chronicled was a 4-year $160mm deal, with a total $92mm guaranteed.
So since 2019, he's been able to pocket $117,664,000 +/-, not including the $375,000 he made signing with the Vikings.
He's still young.
I am going to forecast here that in order to reinvigorate his career in the NFL, he will seriously look at a full year studying under KOC and will be ready on a moment's notice to step in if JJM falters. I'm going out on a limb here that he's going to look at the long game, since he's already made over $100mm and will sign for $5-7mm+/- as the Vikings backup for one year.
Talk about going out on a limb with my prediction...
Man, I don't know. Every time we think a player might be smart and play the long game, they go for the quickest, biggest payday.
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I think Dimes will take the most straight cash he can get. It’s all about getting as much $$ as fast as possible because he could shred his knee or shoulder tomorrow and it would all be gone.
It’s also why I doubt Sammy is back. I think he’ll get starter money elsewhere.
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(02-07-2025, 01:48 PM)AGRforever Wrote: I think Dimes will take the most straight cash he can get. It’s all about getting as much $$ as fast as possible because he could shred his knee or shoulder tomorrow and it would all be gone.
It’s also why I doubt Sammy is back. I think he’ll get starter money elsewhere.
This.
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(02-07-2025, 11:40 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: Man, I don't know. Every time we think a player might be smart and play the long game, they go for the quickest, biggest payday.
It's because basically there isn't a long game in the NFL (Not For Long). Injury can end a career instantly. Guys have to get the most they can when they can. And I don't begrudge them a penny of it. They put their long term health at risk to entertain us.
(02-07-2025, 03:22 PM)StickierBuns Wrote: This.
Yup. To stay here he would take less money, less guaranteed money, a shorter deal, and very likely a stated stance from the team that he could be benched for JJM at any time.
There are too many reasons why Sam in purple doesn't make sense. If they bring him back then why did they bother burning a top 10 pick on JJM?
Sitting won't develop the kid any more than it would have developed Daniels or Maye or any guy from the 2024 class. The sooner he sees the field the better.
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Anyone checked Daniel Jones stats? Had a good rookie year and then his production is basically on par with Sam Darnold's early career production in terms of stats and wins.
I don't think anyone will be beating down his door and offering him a big deal. I think he's firmly in the failed first round pick territory and his market will reflect that.
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(02-08-2025, 07:28 AM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: Anyone checked Daniel Jones stats? Had a good rookie year and then his production is basically on par with Sam Darnold's early career production in terms of stats and wins.
I don't think anyone will be beating down his door and offering him a big deal. I think he's firmly in the failed first round pick territory and his market will reflect that.
I don't disagree, but the X factor is rogue GMs or bad organizations that continue to make stupid moves. Its possible they give Danny Dimes a one-year deal higher to start and be a bridge for a rookie QB and it be much more than what Minnesota would offer as a backup. Some can wish that a real QB competition would come down between Dimes and JJM but you have to either just start the kid to see what you have or go through a sham competition and give it to him that way. The bottom line is he's a top 10 drafted QB that Minnesota moved UP to get: the idea that he's not starting is silly IMO, the only way to know what you have is to play him. Whether Dimes to stay as a backup is another matter.
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(02-08-2025, 07:28 AM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: Anyone checked Daniel Jones stats? Had a good rookie year and then his production is basically on par with Sam Darnold's early career production in terms of stats and wins.
I don't think anyone will be beating down his door and offering him a big deal. I think he's firmly in the failed first round pick territory and his market will reflect that.
Agree, his market is low and he's definitely a failed 1st rounder. But have you seen the QB situation on about 7 or 8 teams? As bad as he is, Jones would be an upgrade on all of them. And don't forget he spent a few months in the Kevin O'Connell QB School for the Blind. That might carry some weight.
I hope not. I want him to stay and be our backup. But I think he gets some attention.
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(02-08-2025, 07:28 AM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: Anyone checked Daniel Jones stats? Had a good rookie year and then his production is basically on par with Sam Darnold's early career production in terms of stats and wins.
I don't think anyone will be beating down his door and offering him a big deal. I think he's firmly in the failed first round pick territory and his market will reflect that.
I tend to agree, he has been relatively unimpressive for his career, and even that rookie year wasnt super special. He can start in a pinch, maybe fill in for a few weeks, but hes not a guy a smart GM is going to hitch their wagon to. With that said, i do see a bigger offer for him than what Minny should offer so i think hed be stupid to stay.
Aside from Sam, what has KOC really done? Kirk was still Kork, in the end Sam was still Seeing Ghosts, i think KOC is a good coach, but he hasnt really shown to have special abilities in turning around careers, sam may prove that wrong, but my money says he reverts to his mean going forward.
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(02-08-2025, 09:57 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: I tend to agree, he has been relatively unimpressive for his career, and even that rookie year wasnt super special. He can start in a pinch, maybe fill in for a few weeks, but hes not a guy a smart GM is going to hitch their wagon to. With that said, i do see a bigger offer for him than what Minny should offer so i think hed be stupid to stay.
Aside from Sam, what has KOC really done? Kirk was still Kork, in the end Sam was still Seeing Ghosts, i think KOC is a good coach, but he hasnt really shown to have special abilities in turning around careers, sam may prove that wrong, but my money says he reverts to his mean going forward.
Before Kirks Achillis injury, his numbers I believe were best in the NFL in year two under KOC. It was our defense that was crap. He was looking to have his greatest year and he was sharp. I am happy with the decision that we decided to go, but he was playing his best football of his career before the injury under KOC.
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