Russia Russia Russia to war or not to war

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So heres a fun thought exercise. 

……would you rather have uncle Joe or trucker hat Trump at the reigns right now. 

I sure hope cooler heads prevail here some how, some way. 

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And by the way Joe, drill baby drill. Energy is going to $&@“@ the economy. 

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@AGRforever said:
So heres a fun thought exercise. 

……would you rather have uncle Joe or trucker hat Trump at the reigns right now. 

I sure hope cooler heads prevail here some how, some way. 

Would Putin be pulling this shit if Trump was still at the reigns?  IMO the US looks so weak with Biden, kinda reminds me of the story line around Bush Sr back in the 90s... Fighting the Wimp Factor.  I am not saying that Trump would have kept Putin our of the Ukraine,  but I am convinced that nobody is scared of or respects Brandon.

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@JimmyinSD said:

@AGRforever said:
So heres a fun thought exercise. 

……would you rather have uncle Joe or trucker hat Trump at the reigns right now. 

I sure hope cooler heads prevail here some how, some way. 

Would Putin be pulling this shit if Trump was still at the reigns?  IMO the US looks so weak with Biden, kinda reminds me of the story line around Bush Sr back in the 90s... Fighting the Wimp Factor.  I am not saying that Trump would have kept Putin our of the Ukraine,  but I am convinced that nobody is scared of or respects Brandon.

I lean that way as well.  I can say I'm ok without the daily twitter tirade. 

But holy hell I do not want a full on war with Russia.  Putin needs to get assassinated or something because he's crazy if he thinks the world will just watch. 

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@AGRforever said:

@JimmyinSD said:

@AGRforever said:
So heres a fun thought exercise. 

……would you rather have uncle Joe or trucker hat Trump at the reigns right now. 

I sure hope cooler heads prevail here some how, some way. 

Would Putin be pulling this shit if Trump was still at the reigns?  IMO the US looks so weak with Biden, kinda reminds me of the story line around Bush Sr back in the 90s... Fighting the Wimp Factor.  I am not saying that Trump would have kept Putin our of the Ukraine,  but I am convinced that nobody is scared of or respects Brandon.

I lean that way as well.  I can say I'm ok without the daily twitter tirade. 

But holy hell I do not want a full on war with Russia.  Putin needs to get assassinated or something because he's crazy if he thinks the world will just watch. 

I think in some ways... the reason this is being handled as low key as it has is that it is serving a purpose,  there is no talk of many of the other things that are going on that doesnt paint certain high profile people/groups in a good light,  and with this focus on russia,  there arent many other clicks left for the other shit... especially in an election year with a tidal wave of swing support going in the other direction.

I dont think Putin is acting alone either,  he has support from those that really run this world,  otherwise he would have been eliminated long before now.  I just dont think governments run the world anymore as much as the wealthy elite do.  (been this way for quite a while IMO,  just now I think they have all figured out a way to get along and are brave enough to start dropping the curtain.

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@AGRforever said:
So heres a fun thought exercise. 

……would you rather have uncle Joe or trucker hat Trump at the reigns right now. 

I sure hope cooler heads prevail here some how, some way. 

Im about as left of the foul pole as possible....But Im going with Trump. 

Seriously - and heres why.....

Never before would I have thought that “bat shit crazy” would be a political “advantage”

But when world leaders can collectively agree that our President is a pathological liar, narcissistic, megalomaniac, with a room temperature IQ, it gives them tremendous cause for hesitation when dealing with the United States.....

”You never know WHAT that crazy fuck is gonna do” may well be an advantageous course of action over rational thought.

Put it in these terms. There’s an unkempt, filthy homeless guy across the street, obvious his brain is fried from drugs, shouting obscenities at passers-by, and preaching that pigeons will one day rule the world.  Do you go over and have a chat, or leave him the F alone?

Crazy people scare me, in the case of Trump and American foreign policy, it may well be our best course of action....World leaders look at Trump and think......”leave him the F alone”

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I think praising Putin didnt help Ukranian/American/West Euro cause in the least...

Interesting how some think of Trump as Macho while others will look at his reign as POTUS as some of the most damaging for American influence abroad as anyone. 

Maybe I should link some Top Gun music here too? Little Hiway to the Danger Zone? A few ICE memes?

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@purplefaithful said:
I think praising Putin didnt help Ukranian/American/West Euro cause in the least...

Interesting how some think of Trump as Macho while others will look at his reign as POTUS as some of the most damaging for American influence abroad as anyone. 

Maybe I should link some Top Gun music here too? Little Hiway to the Danger Zone? A few ICE memes?

Of course it didn't help anything, only made it worse. But that's his MO. These cult members that have a shirtless Rambo with Trump's face on it on the side of their trucks or on a flag are absolutely hilarious. Trump is a candy ass blowhard. But I digress....

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@purplefaithful said:
I think praising Putin didnt help Ukranian/American/West Euro cause in the least...

Interesting how some think of Trump as Macho while others will look at his reign as POTUS as some of the most damaging for American influence abroad as anyone. 

Maybe I should link some Top Gun music here too? Little Hiway to the Danger Zone? A few ICE memes?

I dont know that emboldened him as I dont think he really needed any more ego boosts after the world rolled over and let him take the Crimean penninsula in 2014,  and get away with shooting down an airliner over the Ukraine in 2014.  both 2 full years before the trump maniacs took hold.  Putin has had allies in DC long enough to know that the US isnt going to do shit.  The obama administration didnt do anything,  the trump administration didnt pursue any action against them so they are not off the hook either.

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Trump on his hero...

“I said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s the strongest peace force… We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.”