@ StickyBun
Sticky, what is wrong with my statement above? AGR says if people choose to not get the shot and they get sick or worse its harsh? I dont see that as harsh, its the price of freedom. we are free to make our own choices and those choices all have consequences, what is wrong with expecting people to accept and deal with the results of their own decisions and actions?
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@StickyBun
Sticky, what is wrong with my statement above? AGR says if people choose to not get the shot and they get sick or worse its harsh? I dont see that as harsh, its the price of freedom. we are free to make our own choices and those choices all have consequences, what is wrong with expecting people to accept and deal with the results of their own decisions and actions?
Individual freedoms are one thing, personal freedoms that don't impact others. This impacts others. Waiting to get vaccinated slows herd immunity which impacts others, other fellow Americans. It increases the time for variants to evolve. There is something called a greater good. Its a real thing. It involves a little sacrifice. If you're going to get vaccinated jimmy, do it now. You have no good reason not to.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun
Sticky, what is wrong with my statement above? AGR says if people choose to not get the shot and they get sick or worse its harsh? I dont see that as harsh, its the price of freedom. we are free to make our own choices and those choices all have consequences, what is wrong with expecting people to accept and deal with the results of their own decisions and actions?
Individual freedoms are one thing, personal freedoms that don't impact others. This impacts others. Waiting to get vaccinated slows herd immunity which impacts others, other fellow Americans. It increases the time for variants to evolve. There is something called a greater good. Its a real thing. It involves a little sacrifice. If you're going to get vaccinated jimmy, do it now. You have no good reason not to.
but that had nothing to do with what I said there... he said his comments were harsh and I said I didnt think they were harsh at all. its the reality of the decision, nothing harsh about that when all the facts are out there.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@StickyBun
Sticky, what is wrong with my statement above? AGR says if people choose to not get the shot and they get sick or worse its harsh? I dont see that as harsh, its the price of freedom. we are free to make our own choices and those choices all have consequences, what is wrong with expecting people to accept and deal with the results of their own decisions and actions?
What if your decision affects others?
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@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun
Sticky, what is wrong with my statement above? AGR says if people choose to not get the shot and they get sick or worse its harsh? I dont see that as harsh, its the price of freedom. we are free to make our own choices and those choices all have consequences, what is wrong with expecting people to accept and deal with the results of their own decisions and actions?
What if your decision affects others?
Re-read what AGR wrote that I was responding to....
This is going to sound harsh....but if you're to stupid to not get vaccinated then you've cast your own lot. Good luck.
Let me add that my folks and brother are in that not getting vaccinated crowd. At this point they get what they get.
I simply said his sentiment was not harsh, we live in a free country and getting vaccinated is a free choice, if people that choose to forgo vaccination get sick or worse, that is the consequence of their choice and stating it as AGR did IMO is not harsh at all, but simply stating the facts of the matter.
Wonder if things will change when insurance stop covering covid costs if you don’t get a shot.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun
Sticky, what is wrong with my statement above? AGR says if people choose to not get the shot and they get sick or worse its harsh? I dont see that as harsh, its the price of freedom. we are free to make our own choices and those choices all have consequences, what is wrong with expecting people to accept and deal with the results of their own decisions and actions?
What if your decision affects others?
Re-read what AGR wrote that I was responding to....
This is going to sound harsh....but if you're to stupid to not get vaccinated then you've cast your own lot. Good luck.
Let me add that my folks and brother are in that not getting vaccinated crowd. At this point they get what they get.
I simply said his sentiment was not harsh, we live in a free country and getting vaccinated is a free choice, if people that choose to forgo vaccination get sick or worse, that is the consequence of their choice and stating it as AGR did IMO is not harsh at all, but simply stating the facts of the matter.
jimmy, re-read what I was responding to, you said this:
"what is harsh about that? if you are an adult and look at the information out there and make a decision for yourself based on that information then that is the essence of freedom right there."
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Wonder if things will change when insurance stop covering covid costs if you don’t get a shot.
and that would be another consequence to consider for those waiting or simply refusing to get the shot.... again though its their choice and those choices have consequences. no different than those that are paying higher premiums for choosing to smoke, or carry excess weight, sometimes our choices hit us in the wallet.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun
Sticky, what is wrong with my statement above? AGR says if people choose to not get the shot and they get sick or worse its harsh? I dont see that as harsh, its the price of freedom. we are free to make our own choices and those choices all have consequences, what is wrong with expecting people to accept and deal with the results of their own decisions and actions?
What if your decision affects others?
Re-read what AGR wrote that I was responding to....
This is going to sound harsh....but if you're to stupid to not get vaccinated then you've cast your own lot. Good luck.
Let me add that my folks and brother are in that not getting vaccinated crowd. At this point they get what they get.
I simply said his sentiment was not harsh, we live in a free country and getting vaccinated is a free choice, if people that choose to forgo vaccination get sick or worse, that is the consequence of their choice and stating it as AGR did IMO is not harsh at all, but simply stating the facts of the matter.
jimmy, re-read what I was responding to, you said this:
"what is harsh about that? if you are an adult and look at the information out there and make a decision for yourself based on that information then that is the essence of freedom right there."
yes.. i said that... its not harsh when people reap what they sow. should people get vaccinated, yes they likely should, is it a personal choice, every bit so. women choose to end their pregnancy's daily, often for selfish reasons, to the detriment of the child they are carrying but we dont seem to care about the greater good of that child in this country so I have a hard time buying the greater good line from the left on this one. about twice as many babies were killed by abortion last year compared to what we lost to covid. Where was the concern for the greater good when those govs were using nursing homes to house covid patients? Our state had crazy strong restrictions in place to attempt to keep covid out for as long as it could, while others completely ignored the obvious and directly killed thousands as a result... no concern for the greater good there at all. This whole virus thing has been handled so poorly by all involved that I am not going to condemn those that refuse to trust the govt or the CDC, and the track record of big pharma speaks for itself. I trust the vaccine, and I will get my shots when I plan to for reasons that I am comfortable with. My wife has gotten hers and I had no issue with that anymore than my son refuses to get his despite us pointing out that the misinformation campaign is almost complete shit.
dont worry, I dont plan on attending any Vikings games this fall so you wont come in contact with my high risk ass.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun
Sticky, what is wrong with my statement above? AGR says if people choose to not get the shot and they get sick or worse its harsh? I dont see that as harsh, its the price of freedom. we are free to make our own choices and those choices all have consequences, what is wrong with expecting people to accept and deal with the results of their own decisions and actions?
What if your decision affects others?
Re-read what AGR wrote that I was responding to....
This is going to sound harsh....but if you're to stupid to not get vaccinated then you've cast your own lot. Good luck.
Let me add that my folks and brother are in that not getting vaccinated crowd. At this point they get what they get.
I simply said his sentiment was not harsh, we live in a free country and getting vaccinated is a free choice, if people that choose to forgo vaccination get sick or worse, that is the consequence of their choice and stating it as AGR did IMO is not harsh at all, but simply stating the facts of the matter.
jimmy, re-read what I was responding to, you said this:
"what is harsh about that? if you are an adult and look at the information out there and make a decision for yourself based on that information then that is the essence of freedom right there."
dont worry, I dont plan on attending any Vikings games this fall so you wont come in contact with my high risk ass.
lol, I don't care. I'm vaccinated. You've completely missed my point with the high horse response. You told me you were getting vaccinated, but you were going to wait. There's no reason to wait. None. Your reason for waiting isn't valid. The CDC says you don't need a mask anymore anywhere if you're vaccinated. Sounds good to me.
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