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Knucklehead · 02-16-2025, 11:43 AM

(02-16-2025, 08:14 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: Those were just examples. I'm aware of Scherff's age, but there will have to either be an incumbent returning or one of the three will have to be a guy looking for a 1-year deal. A Zeitler type. He was 34 when the Lions signed him to a one-year, $6M deal last season. He had a fantastic year and is a free agent again. I think Scherff could be this year's Zeilter.

If you want to fix all three, sign two 2nd tier free agents long term and bring in a short-term veteran on a 1-year deal. That's the position you backup with a '25 draft pick.

I hope you're right about Jurgens. I've read that same hype. But there's absolutely no way the team goes into the season counting on Jurgens to be the guy snapping the ball to JJ. If the team is actually high on Jurgens (no idea), then that argues strongly for bringing back Bradbury.

Would definitely prefer Daniels over Scherff. I just don't know if we're going to be handing out three long-term contracts to our IOL to go with the massive contracts on the outside. Our OL would be the highest paid OL in the NFL and it wouldn't be close.

The more we sign, the cheaper we have to go. IOW, if we sign just one, I'm good with Trey Smith or Fries. If we sign two, I'd probably go Jenkins and Daniels. If we replace all three, then I think you have to pull the reigns back. Jenkins, Dalman, Scherff.

I'm not counting on Fries to hit the market. Indy has plenty of cap to resign him & they have their own young QB to protect. Why would they allow him to leave?

MaroonBells · (This post was last modified: 02-16-2025, 02:23 PM by MaroonBells.)

(02-16-2025, 11:43 AM)Knucklehead Wrote: I'm not counting on Fries to hit the market. Indy has plenty of cap to resign him & they have their own young QB to protect. Why would they allow him to leave?

I doubt they will. I've said before that I didn't think he'd ever hit the open market. Just playing with scenarios.

One player who's not currently a free agent, but could be released in a Browns rebuild is Joel Bitonio. LG, 7X Pro Bowler, he'll be 34 in October and so can't command a long-term deal. Like Scherff, he might be ready to go down the 1-year road like Zeitler did last year.

Dustin Baker@DustBaker
The Vikings had $37 million in cap space at this time on the calendar last year. They signed these notable free agents:

— Jerry Tillery (DT)
— Aaron Jones (RB)
— Jihad Ward (OLB)
— Sam Darnold (QB)
— Shaquill Griffin (CB)
— Jalen Redmond (DT)
— Trent Sherfield (WR)
— Blake Cashman (ILB)
— Stephon Gilmore (CB)
— Kamu Grugier-Hill (ILB)
— Andrew Van Ginkel (OLB)
— Jonathan Greenard (OLB)

This go-round, they have about $58 million.

That's why this free agency period will be quite fun.

purplefaithful · 02-16-2025, 05:02 PM

StickierBuns · 02-17-2025, 07:31 AM

Harrison Smith is 36 years old, they have to try and move on from him. And I say this loving the guy. I think there's a strong chance his play will fall off the table this year.

MaroonBells · (This post was last modified: 02-17-2025, 10:27 AM by MaroonBells.)

(02-17-2025, 07:31 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Harrison Smith is 36 years old, they have to try and move on from him. And I say this loving the guy. I think there's a strong chance his play will fall off the table this year.

I actually want him to retire. It's time. It would be good for him; it would be good for the team. Also, his play already dropped off the last couple years. Just a little but enough to make you fear that the cliff is near.

supafreak84 · 02-17-2025, 11:45 AM

Kevin Seifert floating the idea that the Vikings could use the franchise tag on cornerback Byron Murphy and confirming they will not be tagging QB Sam Darnold.

You hear different things on Murphy from different people. I have a hard time seeing the Vikings letting him out of their building because he's part of the solution and not another position you have to try replacing.

purplefaithful · 02-17-2025, 03:24 PM

I would rather sign Bynum then Murphy if it comes down to that.

Murphy is going to want too much $$ for what I think his true capability is.

He is not a #1 db imo.

*JimmyinSD* · 02-17-2025, 06:06 PM

(02-17-2025, 03:24 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: I would rather sign Bynum then Murphy if it comes down to that.

Murphy is going to want too much $$ for what I think his true capability is.

He is not a #1 db imo.

I have a hard time judging any of our DBs this year, considering how pathetic our pass rush was most of the time, how often they blitzed without getting pressure or a sack, that left DBs on islands far to often with QB that wasnt seeing the pressure that they should have been under considering the blitzes. We may have been high in sacks and pressures, but I wonder what our success percentages look like because there we many times that our DBs were simply asked to cover for to long.

Bullazin · 02-18-2025, 09:46 AM

(02-17-2025, 03:24 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: I would rather sign Bynum then Murphy if it comes down to that.

Murphy is going to want too much $$ for what I think his true capability is.

He is not a #1 db imo.

I agree. Murph had a great year but he is not an outside corner. Why pay 20 mil? I would take dj reed or chavarious Ward all day instead.OTOH, it’s tough to let a 27 yo pro bowler coming back to the same defense walk.

StickierBuns · 02-18-2025, 10:10 AM

Its funny about Murphy: he was a highly drafted (33rd, right at the beginning of round 2) corner and highly rated in the Draft the year he came out. Most had him the #1 or #2 ranked corner pre-Draft. Obviously the Cardinals let him become a FA and I wouldn't say he's a true outside, cover corner....but its not like he doesn't have some talent and athletic ability. But the thought of paying him a massive contract makes me a little queasy. He's in reality, he's a decent #2 CB on a team....not great, but decent.