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MaroonBells · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 02:10 PM by MaroonBells.)

(Yesterday, 10:57 AM)medaille Wrote: There’s nothing controversial with what Pelissero said. He’s not really making much for commitments at all or saying any hot takes. Basically said water is wet.

The Vikings like Darnold. The Vikings like JJM. The Vikings would like to keep Darnold for a certain price. Above that price they wouldn’t keep him. That is just standard offseason speak. Regarding JJM and his experience, the team is probably treating him closer to having ½ a year of experience than a full year of experience. He got a bunch of mental reps, but missed a bunch of physical reps. You probably still want a guy that’s going to push him in the offseason rather than anointing him the uncontested starter, but you don’t want to spend a ton. That’s just being responsible.

Right, but that's different than what many Viking fans have been saying: that's it's over with Darnold, he's said his goodbyes and it's now JJ's team. To his credit, Pelissero is not floating the trade JJ idea like Orlovsky and others, but he is suggesting that starting JJ week one would be "unprecedented," that there is a chance Darnold is back, and that the conversation about that is ongoing and fluid.

Now, that may not be controversial to you, or even me, but I just had a text conversation with a Viking fan this morning who was pretty livid to hear that we might still be considering bringing Sam back. I told him this could just be a message to QB-desperate teams from the Vikings thru Pelissero, basically saying, "we like him, we want him, we may sign him, we may tag him, but the bottom line is we're not going to just let him walk for free."

purplefaithful · Yesterday, 02:07 PM

The good news is:

It should be clear (soon) as to the Vikings plan for Qb1/Qb2
Free Agency should be a blast this year, more fun than the draft?
Might be the most fun since 09 and Bert or when we picked-up Winfield/Pat W in one fell swoop

Canthony · Yesterday, 04:14 PM

I thought about something, Garrett wants out because he knows there is no chance of winning, especially with Watson out most likely all next year. The Browns can appease Garrett with trading for Darnold. Stefanski is close to our organization as well. You bring in Darnold, only way you can guarantee that is if they trade for him, that may entice Garrett to stay.

pattersaur · Yesterday, 06:49 PM

(Yesterday, 04:14 PM)Canthony Wrote: I thought about something, Garrett wants out because he knows there is no chance of winning, especially with Watson out most likely all next year. The Browns can appease Garrett with trading for Darnold. Stefanski is close to our organization as well. You bring in Darnold, only way you can guarantee that is if they trade for him, that may entice Garrett to stay.

I could see us being very in on Garrett if they trade him, but I do not see the Browns wanting Sam. Those moves seem counterintuitive unless they think they can shoot the moon with the roster they got plus Sam and picks, and contend next year. That'd be tough.

purplefaithful · Yesterday, 07:02 PM

A big part of this is keeping the fans happy and engaged - at least by Cleveland standards.

There is a shiny new, domed stadium in Brook Park at stake.

Padre · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 08:08 PM by Padre.)

We had this talk in another thread, but the Browns are currently -27 million in cap space. Garret has 2 active years left on his deal, and then 4 years of void. They move on from him prior to 6/1 they are going another 15 million in the wrong direction.

Also, if we were looking for an edge rusher why wouldn't we pursue Maxx Crosby? 2 years younger, the raiders are in big need of a QB....I just don't bite on the Garret interest for us.

MAD GAINZ · 10 hours ago

(Yesterday, 08:04 PM)Padre Wrote: We had this talk in another thread, but the Browns are currently -27 million in cap space. Garret has 2 active years left on his deal, and then 4 years of void. They move on from him prior to 6/1 they are going another 15 million in the wrong direction.

Also, if we were looking for an edge rusher why wouldn't we pursue Maxx Crosby? 2 years younger, the raiders are in big need of a QB....I just don't bite on the Garret interest for us.

If we invest more cap and draft picks assets into edge rusher, fire Kwesi now. It's our deepest position on the team even if Patrick Jones leaves.

We need to start stockpiling picks to supplement our starters and depth around JJ McCarthy and that rookie contract for the next couple years.

Also, Garrett is a phenomenal player but I still can't get past him smacking another dude in the face with his helmet. Not a fan of his.