I think MB has some good political points, but I also think that Greed and Jimmy do as well. I poke both sides. So all the people I mentioned in the first sentence are smart people. But the perspectives differ. But that doesn't mean one side isn't more right than the other, there is a right side. There is a singular better way to go and truth in any debate. This 'agree to disagree' stuff is polite society and board manners. There is a better answer and a 'right' and a 'wrong'. But its not true to say its perspective only. That belittles intellectual, direct conversation.
Here's the thing: we live in a big ol' country of over 330 million: you can't please everyone. But there is a right and wrong answer from an idealistic one. An altruistic one.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
What good does posting this shit do? There isnt a news story burried in this. It is entirely someones personal opinion. You can find dispariging opinion peices on the internet about everything.
Im all about having sensative topics but this type of thing does nobody any good.
Why does it have to do anyone good?
Theres no point. You weren’t looking for a discusion. There was nothing to debate. The whole point of your thread was to cause division.
One side of the country calls the other side stupid and vice versa. It only serves to keep people blindly following “their team” while both sides bend us over without vaseline.
He was looking to debate the straw man. The people that exist only in his head.
Oh they exist, Greed, they exist. Racists, white supremacists, sycophants, misogynists, hypocrites, Q-balls, conspiracy theorists...holocaust, election, climate and vaccine deniers..it really is deplorable. And there's like a bunch of 'em. Like a whole basket. If only someone had warned us.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
What good does posting this shit do? There isnt a news story burried in this. It is entirely someones personal opinion. You can find dispariging opinion peices on the internet about everything.
Im all about having sensative topics but this type of thing does nobody any good.
Why does it have to do anyone good?
Theres no point. You weren’t looking for a discusion. There was nothing to debate. The whole point of your thread was to cause division.
One side of the country calls the other side stupid and vice versa. It only serves to keep people blindly following “their team” while both sides bend us over without vaseline.
No, you're right. I wasn't looking for discussion. And I'm glad you agree there was nothing to debate. It was simply to point out just how batshit crazy one party has become. Cue the next false equivalence.
If you weren't looking for conversation or debate then this wasn't the forum for that post. If you are looking just to dump shit to stir a pot then go seek your jollies elsewhere with that shit. You want to have a legit adult conversation then go ahead.
I'll give you a 10 out of 10 for troll bait. Not unusual to see anti-christian commentary from MB. Nothing new.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
What good does posting this shit do? There isnt a news story burried in this. It is entirely someones personal opinion. You can find dispariging opinion peices on the internet about everything.
Im all about having sensative topics but this type of thing does nobody any good.
Why does it have to do anyone good?
Theres no point. You weren’t looking for a discusion. There was nothing to debate. The whole point of your thread was to cause division.
One side of the country calls the other side stupid and vice versa. It only serves to keep people blindly following “their team” while both sides bend us over without vaseline.
He was looking to debate the straw man. The people that exist only in his head.
Oh they exist, Greed, they exist. Racists, white supremacists, sycophants, misogynists, hypocrites, Q-balls, conspiracy theorists...holocaust, election, climate and vaccine deniers..it really is deplorable. And there's like a bunch of 'em. Like a whole basket. If only someone had warned us.
So are you saying my Return to 2018 post riled you up?
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
I'll give you a 10 out of 10 for troll bait. Not unusual to see anti-christian commentary from MB. Nothing new.
It is bizarre, but maybe telling, that you think this was an anti-Christian post. You clearly didn't read it.
I AM a Christian, though I feel unworthy of the label. Let’s just say I’m a fan. But I’m a fan of the Jesus in the actual Bible. Y’know, the humble servant of the poor, the Nazarene born in straw poverty who encouraged us to love our neighbor, welcome the stranger and give our money and possessions to the poor.
I’m not a fan of the one conjured by Trumpists to justify torture and celebrate greed, wealth and the profit gospel. To disregard the poor, turn away refugees and grab women by the pussy. I don’t know where that Jesus came from.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
I'll give you a 10 out of 10 for troll bait. Not unusual to see anti-christian commentary from MB. Nothing new.
It is bizarre, but maybe telling, that you think this was an anti-Christian post. You clearly didn't read it.
I AM a Christian, though I feel unworthy of the label. Let’s just say I’m a fan. But I’m a fan of the Jesus in the actual Bible. Y’know, the humble servant of the poor, the Nazarene born in straw poverty who encouraged us to love our neighbor, welcome the stranger and give our money and possessions to the poor.
I’m not a fan of the one conjured by Trumpists to justify torture and celebrate greed, wealth and the profit gospel. To disregard the poor, turn away refugees and grab women by the pussy. I don’t know where that Jesus came from.
We live in a world of hypocrites: none come bigger than church-going Christians. I was raised Catholic so I had a front row seat to it.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
I'll give you a 10 out of 10 for troll bait. Not unusual to see anti-christian commentary from MB. Nothing new.
It is bizarre, but maybe telling, that you think this was an anti-Christian post. You clearly didn't read it.
I AM a Christian, though I feel unworthy of the label. Let’s just say I’m a fan. But I’m a fan of the Jesus in the actual Bible. Y’know, the humble servant of the poor, the Nazarene born in straw poverty who encouraged us to love our neighbor, welcome the stranger and give our money and possessions to the poor.
I’m not a fan of the one conjured by Trumpists to justify torture and celebrate greed, wealth and the profit gospel. To disregard the poor, turn away refugees and grab women by the pussy. I don’t know where that Jesus came from.
You were all over the place in first post in this thread and above. The summit was not a "Christian event", it was a leadership training event. Were there Christians at event, yes. probably. Your whole second paragraph in the OP was totally off the rails and unrelated to the conference. You paint with way too broad a brush, it is doubtful that many Christians believe as you stated in this second paragraph in the OP. If indeed you are a Christian, be very careful about bearing false witness against fellow Christians or others. Don't let your disdain for Trump lead you astray.
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
I'll give you a 10 out of 10 for troll bait. Not unusual to see anti-christian commentary from MB. Nothing new.
It is bizarre, but maybe telling, that you think this was an anti-Christian post. You clearly didn't read it.
I AM a Christian, though I feel unworthy of the label. Let’s just say I’m a fan. But I’m a fan of the Jesus in the actual Bible. Y’know, the humble servant of the poor, the Nazarene born in straw poverty who encouraged us to love our neighbor, welcome the stranger and give our money and possessions to the poor.
I’m not a fan of the one conjured by Trumpists to justify torture and celebrate greed, wealth and the profit gospel. To disregard the poor, turn away refugees and grab women by the pussy. I don’t know where that Jesus came from.
You were all over the place in first post in this thread and above. The summit was not a "Christian event", it was a leadership training event. Were there Christians at event, yes. probably. Your whole second paragraph in the OP was totally off the rails and unrelated to the conference. You paint with way too broad a brush, it is doubtful that many Christians believe as you stated in this second paragraph in the OP. If indeed you are a Christian, be very careful about bearing false witness against fellow Christians or others. Don't let your disdain for Trump lead you astray.
Interesting you put "bearing false witness" next to your line about Trump. Trump, a walking, talking embodiment of all seven deadly sins, who uses God and the Bible as a prop, is an insult to believers everywhere.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
I'll give you a 10 out of 10 for troll bait. Not unusual to see anti-christian commentary from MB. Nothing new.
It is bizarre, but maybe telling, that you think this was an anti-Christian post. You clearly didn't read it.
I AM a Christian, though I feel unworthy of the label. Let’s just say I’m a fan. But I’m a fan of the Jesus in the actual Bible. Y’know, the humble servant of the poor, the Nazarene born in straw poverty who encouraged us to love our neighbor, welcome the stranger and give our money and possessions to the poor.
I’m not a fan of the one conjured by Trumpists to justify torture and celebrate greed, wealth and the profit gospel. To disregard the poor, turn away refugees and grab women by the pussy. I don’t know where that Jesus came from.
You were all over the place in first post in this thread and above. The summit was not a "Christian event", it was a leadership training event. Were there Christians at event, yes. probably. Your whole second paragraph in the OP was totally off the rails and unrelated to the conference. You paint with way too broad a brush, it is doubtful that many Christians believe as you stated in this second paragraph in the OP. If indeed you are a Christian, be very careful about bearing false witness against fellow Christians or others. Don't let your disdain for Trump lead you astray.
Interesting you put "bearing false witness" next to your line about Trump. Trump, a walking, talking embodiment of all seven deadly sins, who uses God and the Bible as a prop, is an insult to believers everywhere.
Of course. Its the ultimate hypocrisy. When I hear that Christians back this guy its mind-blowing. When I hear hard-working blue collar folk back him, I'm dumbfounded: he's a spoiled little rich bitch boy. Didn't earn a damn thing in his life. Has a well deserved reputation as a jack wagon. But he's a xenophobe and demagogue and that is what appeals to them. I have a friend that told me he won't go to a Chinese restaurant because of what China is doing. LMAO, ok. He'll 'drain the swamp', they said. Riiiight.
The world is full of hypocrites. There's a guy down here in Florida named Ron DeSantis that is getting buzz as the next GOP candidate for President. I like him. I've watched what he's done. I haven't seen a person in politics have a better understanding of the subject matter he is discussing than DeSantis, no matter what it might be that's he's speaking about. Yes, he did snuggle up to Trump, but it was clearly a means to an end. He's not like him. When Biden came down to survey the Surfside condo collapse, he praised Biden and was complimentary. He understands that scorched earth isn't going to bring anyone together.
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