(08-29-2025, 10:10 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: This is probably what it will boil down to, Love.

The national media is 100% convinced the Packer's roster 'is loaded with YOUNG talent!'....its what they drone on and on about. And they make the assumption that Love is already a franchise QB: these are the assumptions baked into all of their love for GB. What a pragmatist would say is two years ago they won 9 games and then last year 11. Is this a team on the come?

(08-29-2025, 03:33 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: The amount of rationalization and delusion in this thread is epic, lol. What was I thinking?

The first round picks that Dallas gets in this trade will be gotten toward the end of the round, in the late 20s. Clark will be 30 in October, but still a force (occasionally) and a good player but descending. Parsons has averaged what each year, 12+ sacks annually? He's an All Pro player. Jerry Jones is an absolute idiot and moron and the only thing partially saving him is that the Cowpie fanbase are also idiots and morons. They'll still show up and spend $$$ even though the team has been mostly either garbage or underwhelming/overrated the last 30 years because the media hypes them up EVERY year. They still think Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith are going to come out of the tunnel.

Jones lives and operates in his own deluded world:

"In Jones’s first post-trade press conference, which included an 11-minute monologue, he said the trade was made to improve the Cowboys’ run defense, citing Clark’s status as a Pro Bowl defensive tackle. Never mind the fact that run defense is not considered Clark’s strength or that Green Bay’s run defense wasn’t very good with him anchoring the line."

He's going to be 83 years old in a few months. If he wasn't the owner, he'd have been put out to pasture long ago. He likes to make deals without player agents and went past the point of no return alienating Parsons and his agent. He's got plenty of yes men around him telling him this was a 'Herschel Walker' trade and it wasn't even in the same zip code. Jones got fleeced. Mike Lynn and Jimmy Johnson were responsible for the Cowboys renaissance. This story nails it:

https://www.si.com/nfl/micah-parsons-trade-is-proof-jerry-jones-should-no-longer-lead-cowboys

"There comes a time in the life of every senior citizen when large responsibilities, such as the operation of a motor vehicle, heavy machinery or even the lawnmower must be reevaluated with sobriety. It’s only natural that certain aspects of daily life be delegated to those who maintain the sharpness and reaction time of their youth. The problem comes when those entering their golden years don’t want to give up the often underappreciated thrill of taking a spin in the Cadillac to Dairy Queen for ice cream, or, in a case that was brought to our attention Thursday, maintaining a very serious role in running the Dallas Cowboys.

The Micah Parsons trade, which one league source wisely described as an “NBA-style salary dump” is like the Khalil Mack trade on steroids (in terms of stupidity—the Cowboys didn’t even get as much for Parsons as the Raiders did in return for Mack, despite the fact that Mack was older at the time of the trade). I thought it impossible to possess more hubris than an unchecked, all-powerful Jon Gruden and yet here we are dissecting a deal that sent arguably the pass rusher with the highest ceiling in the NFL to a conference rival for two first-round picks and a defensive tackle who will turn 30 before Halloween this year."

(08-29-2025, 08:43 AM)Waterboy Wrote: The Vikings obtained Jared Allen for 1 first rounder and he turned into a HOFer and hit 22 sacks at one point in time.  While Parsons is good, two first rounders is very expensive along with that cap hit.  There is both good and bad in that acquisition, but I don't think it can be argued the Packers pulled off the steal of the century here.  They did well, but they didn't break the bank imho.

(08-29-2025, 11:32 AM)Montana Tom Wrote: This is one of the more interesting Chicken Little threads I've read in some time.  The sky is falling, no it isn't.  The sky is green, no it isn't, it's blue.

Some observations:
He's played for the Cowboys for 4 seasons. They made the playoffs 3 of those years as a Wild Card team, going 1-3. They never advanced further than the Divisional Round.
Dak Prescott > Jordan Love
The Packers are the first team in NFL history to devote over $100mm to only two players.
Giving up two firsts and Kenny Clark (past-prime) smacks a bit of our side of the Herschel Walker trade.  Just a bit.
Taking on a $188 million ($136 million guaranteed) obligation (and that still only makes Parsons the third highest cap space on the roster, after Love and Gary), is a healthy obligation.
The top 6 players on the Packers roster (after the Parsons trade, including all players with a $10mm cap hit or greater), comprise 44.25% of the total cap hit.  Seems top heavy.
By comparison, the top 6 players on the Vikings roster (also all over $10mm cap hit each), comprises 36.48% of the total cap hit.  Seems more balanced.
After the Parsons trade, the Packers have $3.2mm in cap space, and no first round picks until 2028.
By comparison, after the Thielen trade / signing, the Vikings have $17mm in cap space.

Like they say...there is a reason they don't award championships on paper.

(08-28-2025, 04:20 PM)badgervike Wrote: $47M per year for Parsons and $55 per year for Love.  If I were guessing, I'd say Packers gave (2) 1st round draft picks that can fill holes relatively inexpensively.  We'll see how this plays out in Titletown.