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RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - StickierBuns - 03-17-2025
(03-17-2025, 11:19 AM)supafreak84 Wrote: I guess we all have different definitions of "proven." To this point Mason hasn't "proven" anymore then someone like Alex Mattison, who is a similar type player and runner. I'd like to see a larger body of work before I'd declare Mason a proven talent, but that's just me. If his one month of production is good enough for you to reach that conclusion, more power to you. My preference would have been to take advantage of a deep and talented draft crop of running backs where there's a higher ceiling. I'd absolutely take any of the top 4 backs in this draft over Mason in a head to head and to have that player on a rookie deal for 4 or 5 years instead of playing musical running backs every year. I think the addition of Mason reduces that possibility significantly.
Whatever happens, happens though at this point.
Like I said, got to let the draft play out and we can all revisit this topic at a later time.
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RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - JustInTime - 03-17-2025
(03-17-2025, 02:10 PM)StickierBuns Wrote:
Yabbut, it’s a small sample size.
RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - supafreak84 - 03-17-2025
(03-17-2025, 02:14 PM)JustInTime Wrote: Yabbut, it’s a small sample size.
Don't know what I was thinking. Boy you guys sure convinced me and proved me wrong. Mason for MVP..
RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - StickierBuns - 03-17-2025
(03-17-2025, 03:14 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: Don't know what I was thinking. Boy you guys sure convinced me and proved me wrong. Mason for MVP..
Haha, not MVP man. Just think its a pretty ok trade is all.
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RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - supafreak84 - 03-17-2025
(03-17-2025, 03:23 PM)StickierBuns Wrote: Haha, not MVP man. Just think its a pretty ok trade is all.
Since we love to reference PFF, out of 47 running backs graded, Mason ranked the following;
Overall grade- 26th
Rushing grade- 20th
Receiving grade- 37th
Touchdowns- 35th
Doesn't get much more "pretty ok" then that..
RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - StickierBuns - 03-18-2025
(03-17-2025, 03:41 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: Since we love to reference PFF, out of 47 running backs graded, Mason ranked the following;
Overall grade- 26th
Rushing grade- 20th
Receiving grade- 37th
Touchdowns- 35th
Doesn't get much more "pretty ok" then that..
For the record, I'm not a big fan of PFF. But you seem good and stubborn on this so whatever man. You can be the sole person that hates this trade where we gave up a whopping 6th rounder for RB2. Never said it was earth shattering, said it was decent. Just toss another dart at KAM's picture or stick a pin in the Voodoo doll.
RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - JustInTime - 03-18-2025
(03-18-2025, 03:35 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: For the record, I'm not a big fan of PFF. But you seem good and stubborn on this so whatever man. You can be the sole person that hates this trade where we gave up a whopping 6th rounder for RB2. Never said it was earth shattering, said it was decent. Just toss another dart at KAM's picture or stick a pin in the Voodoo doll.
It’s an interesting hill to die on no? Pretty clownish. But, whatever.
And again, I’m not a huge fan of PFF, but when every member of a multi billion industry uses something, I’d say there’s at least a wee bit of credence to what they say. But then again, I’m a logical guy so what the fuck do I know.
RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - supafreak84 - 03-18-2025
(03-18-2025, 03:35 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: For the record, I'm not a big fan of PFF. But you seem good and stubborn on this so whatever man. You can be the sole person that hates this trade where we gave up a whopping 6th rounder for RB2. Never said it was earth shattering, said it was decent. Just toss another dart at KAM's picture or stick a pin in the Voodoo doll.
For the record, I think the Mason acquisition is a mid type move and he did show some ability for a small sample size last year. Runs hard, and we needed some size and a change of pace to Jones running style. The only way I have a problem with the Mason acquisition is if it's used as justification on draft day to bypass one of those top backs in the draft where at least one (if not more) is projected to be available at #24. Otherwise I'm fine with the acquisition.
And I'm just giving you guys a bad time posting the PFF stats. I do get a chuckle though anytime the Vikings acquire a player some obscure, random stat line is posted like its this great under the radar move. For example, we could sign a backup guard and a stat line will be posted, "ranked 4th in the NFL in run blocking efficiency" even though the guy only played in six games lol. Just shit like that..
RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - JustInTime - 03-18-2025
I guess what I find humorous is on one hand Kwesi is bashed at every turn to the point of using half truths to support an argument as well as derogatory nicknames then on the other hand the roster is referred to as championship quality.
RE: Vikings trade for Jordan Mason - MaroonBells - 03-18-2025
(03-18-2025, 04:59 AM)JustInTime Wrote: It’s an interesting hill to die on no? Pretty clownish. But, whatever.
And again, I’m not a huge fan of PFF, but when every member of a multi billion industry uses something, I’d say there’s at least a wee bit of credence to what they say. But then again, I’m a logical guy so what the fuck do I know.
Stop with the logic. There's no place for it. People tend to accept only data that jives with what they already believe, or want to believe. Confirmation bias. It's the bane of modern society.
PFF may not be perfect, but when you have trained analysts, many of whom are former coaches and players, focusing on only one player and watching every single snap that player takes, and then before a grade is determined, it's reviewed again by a senior analyst, I don't know, call me crazy, I'm going to put more credibility into that than the typically biased opinion of Burnsville Bob watching Red Zone through his bottle of Grain Belt. If it weren't at least somewhat credible, GMs wouldn't use it. All of them do.
They do need to step up their college game though.