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RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - purplefaithful - 02-12-2026
(02-12-2026, 02:53 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: No, he's not a quarterback whisperer because he's a one trick pony who won't adjust his scheme to help his quarterback out and he's allergic to running the football. You can't win in the playoffs, as proven by every team that went deep, without some semblance of an effective run game. Let's also not obsolve him from a lot of these quarterback gaffes since he's been here. Josh Dobbs was great for one game of sandlot football, and then got worse the deeper he got into the KOC offense. Darnold, much like Mac Jones...developed under Kyle Shanahan and sitting behind Brock Purdy. That's been well documented. Sam Howell was a disaster, and there's no way KOC wasn't heavily involved in that decision to bring him over. Was it KOC who decided to go with McCarthy this year only to find out he wasn't ready and not capable of doing what was asked within the offense? There was minimal to no development of McCarthy this year. RIP to Carson Wentz after operating the KOC chuck and duck offense behind a decimated offensive line. Brosmer...need I say more?
There's just a ton of evidence over the course of time that debunks the entire KOC "QB whisperer" BS. He's never developed a quarterback (ever) and any success he's had has been with multi year veterans that can run his system.
Look, there is no changing your mind and I'm not trying to. But out of all the issues out in Eagan, I dont put KOC in tier1 to fix.
Thats not saying he doesnt have areas to improve (he does) but the guys play hard for him and they damn near made the playoffs with no QB play. At 4/8 they could have all packed it in and they didnt. Thats a win btw, not a bad thing and it sets the foundation for a 26 spring back.
Give KOC a decent QB? And they will be right back to competing for the North and (hopefully) winning some post season games in the near future. My hope that guy is McCarthy.
RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - supafreak84 - 02-12-2026
(02-12-2026, 03:53 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: Look, there is no changing your mind and I'm not trying to. But out of all the issues out in Eagan, I dont put KOC in tier1 to fix.
Thats not saying he doesnt have areas to improve (he does) but the guys play hard for him and they damn near made the playoffs with no QB play. At 4/8 they could have all packed it in and they didnt. Thats a win btw, not a bad thing and it sets the foundation for a 26 spring back.
Give KOC a decent QB? And they will be right back to competing for the North and (hopefully) winning some post season games in the near future. My hope that guy is McCarthy.
The tier 1 issue created by our owners four years ago has been rectified with the firing of Kwesi. It's no secret I wanted Jim Harbaugh as our coach, but I've been okay with OConnell up until this season where the curtain was pulled back and much revealed. I just don't think he's the guy people make him out to be and I have major doubts he ever gets this team to a Super Bowl based on his offense and playcalling. We finally have some late season success running the football with McCarthy and what does OConnell do? Pisses and moans at the postseason presser about having to "dumb down" his offense and wanting to get back to the chuck and duck. That's stubbornness at a level not seen in these parts since Childress and his kick ass offense. That's why I say, I'm shedding no tears or losing any sleep if OConnell is axed in the near future.
RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - MaroonBells - 02-14-2026
My sense right now, from asking around, is all the top quarterbacks that will be, or could be, available, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, this is the place they want to go. It is Minnesota,” ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler said Friday on NFL Live.
RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - medaille - 02-16-2026
(02-14-2026, 10:03 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: My sense right now, from asking around, is all the top quarterbacks that will be, or could be, available, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, this is the place they want to go. It is Minnesota,” ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler said Friday on NFL Live.
I lowkey am suspicious that KOC has been leaking these "Every QB wants to go to MN" leaks.
RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - comet52 - 02-17-2026
(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)medaille Wrote: I lowkey am suspicious that KOC has been leaking these "Every QB wants to go to MN" leaks.
This is the time of year aka silly season where 95% or more of what you hear is unadulterated b.s.
Just cut and paste every football rumor you run across between now and the draft into a notepad file then read it afterwards for laughs.
RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - StickierBuns - 02-17-2026
I'm going to go with the in-house option:
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RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - MaroonBells - 02-17-2026
(Yesterday, 10:01 PM)medaille Wrote: I lowkey am suspicious that KOC has been leaking these "Every QB wants to go to MN" leaks.
Ha! But honestly, if you were a QB is there a team you'd rather go to? I don't think there's another team that comes even close. Plus, both Carr and Murray have all but confirmed their desire to come to Minnesota.
RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - pattersaur - 02-17-2026
(Today, 08:46 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: I'm going to go with the in-house option:
Preach!!! He just has to stay on the field and the team has to get serious about a solid backup plan.
RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - purplefaithful - 02-17-2026
(11 hours ago)pattersaur Wrote: Preach!!! He just has to stay on the field and the team has to get serious about a solid backup plan.
The kid has been snake-bit, no other word for it.
I hope to hell he's got the ceiling I think he does, but he's gotta play.
At this point, the Vikings have no choice but to bring in a VERY capable back-up, Qb2 or whatever you want to call it.
Ive been a season tix holder since the Moon days and we just got our tab for the 2026 tix. They are expensive and this team has been such a fan emotional drain every other year. Got me thinking this season for the first time in a while, do I renew??
Thats an easier yes as a fan when you know the right guy is playing QB.
RE: QB option nobody is talking about... - StickierBuns - 02-17-2026
(11 hours ago)pattersaur Wrote: Preach!!! He just has to stay on the field and the team has to get serious about a solid backup plan.
KOC said the 'QB room' would be upgraded....he didn't specifically mention the starter. The only real doubt the team has is can he stay healthy? And I think they believe he can but he'll have to show it...hard to argue he wasn't snakebit. And there can't be an UDFA like Brosmer at QB2 and there won't be. Wentz getting injured and the O-line decimation with injuries really complicated things. JJM was 6-4 as a starter.
The team HAS to see JJ McCarthy to its end or its true beginning. He'll be QB1 come September.