(01-02-2026, 11:47 AM)Zanary Wrote: I'd still push back against A-aron, because there's nothing in the reports of his personality that make me want him here. JJM couldn't learn all that much from a proven diva that skips most offseason work with his teams.

Whomever they bring in, the position will be as much about cost as about capability. They're not going to try for any of the $50m+ QBs, when the whole concept was to develop a young and CHEAPER QB in the first place. I actually am among those that would love to have Kirko back after a couple seasons of forced humility, but only if he gave a huge discount. Maybe he finally feels like he "won" after Washington played games with him all those years back. In any case, he stayed with us despite the IOL getting him mauled week after week, a head coach that was frankly sh*tty to him (for the first few years) and chunks of the fan base acting like he's the only paid QB in NFL history.

But...I don't see that happening. Atlanta likely needs him more in '26 than in '24, with Penix on the mend.

As pointed out above, Daniels, Penix, Mahomes, Jones, and more all VERY hurt, so maybe JJM can be cut a bit of slack. His luck has been crap, his timing of fatherhood was...not brilliant, but he's also 22. If he continues to show progress on Sunday-including balls that are catchable, not just accurate-I don't think there'll be any doubt as to his status this year.

(01-02-2026, 07:09 AM)Still Hurtn Wrote: JJM is statistically the worse out of the 6 QBs taken in 2024 1st round. JJM is near the bottom of all 1st round qbs every drafted in their first 9 games. JJM is injured more then a grocery store banana. I guess I'm see things totally different cuz JJM is not passing the eye test or facts like stats. I know its internet fodder but why is there multiple articles regarding Burrow, Lamar, Murry coming to the Vikes. Or they need a Vet next year and have open competition. I get it. We all want to be hopeful.. I guess I'm to cynical this go round

(01-02-2026, 08:35 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: If you look at the sack/hit numbers vs how long the QB holds the ball i am betting you find a stronger correlation there than you will comparing them to a rotating OL.  JJM needed to get the ball out quicker and when he started to do that he got hit less.  The OL excuse only goes so far.

I am not arguing for Brosmer over JJM,   they aren't the same raw skill level, but its funny how so many shit talk Brosmer,  ( not you sticky) but then make excuses left and right for JJM,  when they play under the same set of circumstances,   except  JJM has gotten significantly more starter reps and been in the system a whole year more.

All that said,  I want JJM to start and to tear the Packers D a new asshole,  I would love to see panic from the cheese heads as they know they didnt rest that many key players.

(01-02-2026, 06:12 PM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: Really?  He's the only QB in NFL history to have three games with multi-TD passes and a rushing TD in his first 8 starts.

I can dredge up my post showing how Caleb, Maye, Nix, and Penix did in their first 8 starts.  JJ McCarthy had more total TDs than all of them in his first 8 starts.

Problem is most people are comparing his stats this year to his fellow QB class in their second season.  Does JJ need to stay healthy and start playing more consistent?  Yes.  Has he been awful?  No.

(01-02-2026, 08:46 PM)Canthony Wrote: You saw the two games he played, right? Not sure what you saw. He doesn't have an NFL career IMO.

(01-02-2026, 06:12 PM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: Really?  He's the only QB in NFL history to have three games with multi-TD passes and a rushing TD in his first 8 starts.

I can dredge up my post showing how Caleb, Maye, Nix, and Penix did in their first 8 starts.  JJ McCarthy had more total TDs than all of them in his first 8 starts.

Problem is most people are comparing his stats this year to his fellow QB class in their second season.  Does JJ need to stay healthy and start playing more consistent?  Yes.  Has he been awful?  No.

(01-03-2026, 02:03 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: These "multi-criteria" statements are a little misleading. But I definitely agree that it's unfair to compare McCarthy to QBs with FOUR times as many starts under their belts, (McCarthy 8, Nix and Williams 33), and that if you look at just their first 8 starts, McCarthy compares favorably...especially when you consider his 8 starts were broken up by injury and not contiguous.

(01-03-2026, 02:31 PM)StickierBuns Wrote: ...yet we have believers in the almighty gospel, PFF grades. lol. Pick your narrative I guess.

(01-02-2026, 06:12 PM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: Really?  He's the only QB in NFL history to have three games with multi-TD passes and a rushing TD in his first 8 starts.
I can dredge up my post showing how Caleb, Maye, Nix, and Penix did in their first 8 starts.  JJ McCarthy had more total TDs than all of them in his first 8 starts.
Problem is most people are comparing his stats this year to his fellow QB class in their second season.  Does JJ need to stay healthy and start playing more consistent?  Yes.  Has he been awful?  No.

(01-03-2026, 07:30 PM)IceRatz16 Wrote: I’d love to see that post if you still have it, purely for research purposes, of course. 


I’m 100% with you and have been saying the same thing to anyone willing to listen.