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RE: Kwesi Train - purplefaithful - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 12:21 PM)StickierBuns Wrote: Guys....lol. There's no way they are firing KOC. KAM? Probably not, but a MUCH higher chance. The Brad Childress thing was completely different, KOC was COY.
I agree, KOC isnt going anywhere after this season...
KAM? I think its 50/50 if he's back..
RE: Kwesi Train - pattersaur - 12-01-2025
Fans hated Chilly's guts lol. KO is in a much different position and should absolutely be retained.
KAM is getting harder to defend but I still say retain him, with serious staffing changes.
Mike Pettine- Wat the devil? When are we going to hear more about this. Feels very Norv-Turner-is-gone-now.
RE: Kwesi Train - supafreak84 - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 12:21 PM)StickierBuns Wrote: Guys....lol. There's no way they are firing KOC. KAM? Probably not, but a MUCH higher chance. The Brad Childress thing was completely different, KOC was COY.
When did fans booing ever really mean anything? Hell, Philly fans were booing their team against Chicago when the game was scoreless....and they just won last year's Superbowl.
Step away from social media, lol. Honestly.
Childress was coming off an NFC Championship game appearance where we were one bad Farve INT from going to the Super Bowl. He was signed to an extension and fired when the wheels came off the following year. What has KOC ever won? COY means very little in the grand scheme and certainly not a reason in itself to retain him.
And the Wilfs throughout their inept history only make changes when the boo birds are out at home. That's why it means something.
RE: Kwesi Train - StickierBuns - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 12:56 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: Childress was coming off an NFC Championship game appearance where we were one bad Farve INT from going to the Super Bowl. He was signed to an extension and fired when the wheels came off the following year. What has KOC ever won? COY means very little in the grand scheme and certainly not a reason in itself to retain him.
And the Wilfs throughout their inept history only make changes when the boo birds are out at home. That's why it means something.
KOC isn't going anywhere. Bank it.
RE: Kwesi Train - supafreak84 - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 12:58 PM)StickierBuns Wrote: KOC isn't going anywhere. Bank it.
As long as Kwesi is gone. He's the mistake I told everybody he was four years ago when he was hired. You just don't hire a GM with zero football or scouting experience unless you are simply trying to score DEI points with the commissioner. The fans of this organization deserve better than what the Wilfs have served up over the course of 20+ seasons of inept ownership
RE: Kwesi Train - StickierBuns - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 01:11 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: As long as Kwesi is gone. He's the mistake I told everybody he was four years ago when he was hired. You just don't hire a GM with zero football or scouting experience unless you are simply trying to score DEI points with the commissioner. The fans of this organization deserve better than what the Wilfs have served up over the course of 20+ seasons of inept ownership
....much higher chance, but personally I doubt it. I'm not a fan of Kwesi, at all, but I think some sacrificial lambs would go first in that department.
RE: Kwesi Train - supafreak84 - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 01:12 PM)StickierBuns Wrote: ....much higher chance, but personally I doubt it. I'm not a fan of Kwesi, at all, but I think some sacrificial lambs would go first in that department.
Simply firing Grigson or some other lackey and calling it a day isn't going to cut it. The backlash in the media and fanbase would be immense
We are also nearing the point where the star player and face of the franchise is so discontent with the organization that there is real talk he might ask to be traded. Thats real talk in the media. When you are at that point, major changes need to be made.
RE: Kwesi Train - purplefaithful - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 01:19 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: Simply firing Grigson or some other lackey and calling it a day isn't going to cut it. The backlash in the media and fanbase would be immense
Depends on who the Wilfs are getting advice from. Is it still Parcells? Miller? Other?
The VAST MAJORITY of fans arent well educated on the team from a GM/Scouting perspective. They have big opinions that stems from an emotional investment they've made. And in the case of us season tix holders? A financial one too - a big one.
My point being, it wont take much to make "most fans" feel like they made substantial changes...
RE: Kwesi Train - supafreak84 - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 01:31 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: Depends on who the Wilfs are getting advice from. Is it still Parcells? Miller? Other?
The VAST MAJORITY of fans arent well educated on the team from a GM/Scouting perspective. They have big opinions that stems from an emotional investment they've made. And in the case of us season tix holders? A financial one too - a big one.
My point being, it wont take much to make "most fans" feel like they made substantial changes...
Then those of us who "are educated" know they arent doing anything to fix the actual problem. Firing a lackey who has no real say does nothing in that regard. You have to change the decision makers. I think the Wilfs are starting to feel the heat of this season boiling over and they are being called out in the media for the train wreck that is this football team. You either make front office changes, coaching changes, or both. Don't care about extensions. You eat it like you've eaten 300+ million in bad free agent contracts.
RE: Kwesi Train - Chuckf - 12-01-2025
(Yesterday, 10:09 AM)Still Hurtn Wrote: Dont worry Kwesi made this mess, so I'm sure he has a brilliant plan for fixing it... said no one ever.
If Kwesi gets fired he will be fine, I heard Enron is hiring.
Looking back I can understand why Speilman brought in Cousins. If you dont have at least an average QB in this league you are going to struggle as a team.
I am in total agreement. Keenum folded like a tent in Philly for a chance to go to the Super Bowl. He was NEVER going to get the Vikings over the hump. Don't blame Spielman at all for what he did. The problem was the window was closing on the Vikings defense by 2018. That Vikings defense peaked in 2015-2016.