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RE: What a disaster-class of a game by KOC. - StickierBuns - 11-10-2025
(11-10-2025, 03:25 PM)comet52 Wrote: He talks his hot air about organizations failing qb's but at this point it might start to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. 42-13 pass/run ratio in a game where you were running effectively is a failure by the HC. JJM started out ok and then turned into Zach Wilson, throwing balls everywhere but into the arms of open targets. His HC did little or nothing to mitigate this or help or call a game that would help the kid.
KOC's 3rd down run/pass split stats are mind boggling. We have 3x the success rate when we run and we pass 3x as often as we run. It's the definition of stupid. And it doesn't do anything to support a young qb by building success with simple executable options instead of dialing up this constant complex downfield game that is very hit or miss, exposes the qb to too many hits, and gasses the D by failing to convert makeable 3rd and shorts.
Add to this the oline issues - guys who leave get better (Ed Ingram for one) and guys who come here regress. Special teams is another area that is falling short. Price has had so many great returns killed by penalties this year. And frankly a team that is sloppy and taking penalties with a coach who goes to the podium to apologize and announce he's fixing things but then you see the same things on the field year after year is a team being coach by Les Frazier. Ok maybe that's harsh but that is how it feels to me lately.
I still love O'Connell but I will not watch one second of his post game interview after this game. Its maddening the CoachSpeak. But that's really not saying much as all the NFL coaches are ridiculously vague and cliche-ridden 90% of the time they talk anyway.
RE: What a disaster-class of a game by KOC. - medaille - 11-10-2025
I still think KOC is a good coach, but this year isn’t his best year. I’m not sure what’s going on, maybe his wife told him to spend more time at home. Maybe everyone is too injured and is getting rest days instead of practicing, or maybe there’s just too many holes in JJM’s young game, and you spend time focusing on one issue, and another bad habit re-emerges. I’m sure that when JJM eventually settles in, KOC’s style of calling the offense will be fine … most of the time. He absolutely needs to develop something in him that loves running the ball and he needs to figure out how to work with what he’s got. If you can’t call a run play when you’re getting 5.5 ypc, you’re making everything so much tougher on yourself. This is the NFL. You have to run the ball sometimes, and sometimes the NFL takes away your best stuff, so you have to fall back on some other thing, and that’s just not happening with KOC.
RE: What a disaster-class of a game by KOC. - JR44 - 11-10-2025
All the penalties put us in long down situations and the turnovers put behind on the scoreboard, so understand why we threw so much. It was really poor execution, the plays were there to be made, WRs were wide open, just missing a lot of poor throws. You are not going to win when completing less than 50% of your passes. Just a few plays could have turned the game around.
RE: What a disaster-class of a game by KOC. - hogjowlsjohnny - 11-10-2025
KOC's play calling could be much better if JJ could deliver the ball. He has shown that he can at times, but not so much yet.
It's going to be up and down the rest of this year, but I still expect it to be up by the end of the season. This team isn't a bad team, it has just underperformed. Hopefully JJ will get some experience and they will gather it up and make a run next season. If not. we will be right back where Vikings fans seem to be year after year.