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RE: Evaluation of KAM's Use of Draft Capital - JR44 - 03-26-2025
(03-26-2025, 09:52 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: That's exactly it. ESPN is attaching fixed, in-a-vacuum values to draft slots and ignoring the value of the specific player in that slot to the team targeting him. The Vikings likely would've paid far less to move up for just any player. In reality, the draft's #1 defensive player was still on the board about 10 slots down from where he was projected to go. That made the pick much more valuable. So Jacksonville likely had several other offers.
Not really sure how you are doing the math when every team uses the value charts, however great let's say his draft trades were amazing, let's look at what he has done with the picks. Last year we had 1 starter out of the 23 picks that KAM has drafted with many of the top picks not even on the team. Are you saying he has gotten great value? Also, Turner was not the top defensive player in the draft, nor he was a position of need. Was it great value to use a 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th rounder on a guy who was not going to be ready to play when you just signed two starting edge rushers in free agency. The ROI in this case is factual, not sure how you can bend it any other way.
RE: Evaluation of KAM's Use of Draft Capital - JustInTime - 03-26-2025
2024 Consensus Big Board
Dallas Turner #9 overall and the first D player listed.
RE: Evaluation of KAM's Use of Draft Capital - MaroonBells - 03-26-2025
(03-26-2025, 11:10 AM)JR44 Wrote: Not really sure how you are doing the math when every team uses the value charts, however great let's say his draft trades were amazing, let's look at what he has done with the picks. Last year we had 1 starter out of the 23 picks that KAM has drafted with many of the top picks not even on the team. Are you saying he has gotten great value? Also, Turner was not the top defensive player in the draft, nor he was a position of need. Was it great value to use a 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th rounder on a guy who was not going to be ready to play when you just signed two starting edge rushers in free agency. The ROI in this case is factual, not sure how you can bend it any other way.
I think I would need an analogy to make it clear to you. Suffice to say, not all drafts are the same. A premier player dropping due to teams filling needs has more value than simply the next guy on the list. And yes, Turner was the consensus best defensive player in that draft. Whether you agree with that or not is beside the point.
RE: Evaluation of KAM's Use of Draft Capital - Watcher - 03-26-2025
People are equating cost to value, which is not the case. Tom nailed it when he laid it out. JJM and Turner both had greater value to the vikings than a generic cost chart indicated.