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RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - JustInTime - 02-19-2025

To me, I'm asking for a Day 2 pick and a Day 3 pick next year that is tied to performance that moves up.

Stafford has zero guaranteed dollars

Purdy can't stay on the field.

He'd have similar production with those playcallers.

So, are they going to pay Stafford upwards of nearly $60? How about Purdy after a SB appearance already?

I think the market is bigger than you think.

Darnold definitely forget how to be decisive in his last two starts. KO's reaction after the game was to immediately to bring up the O Line. I'd say 6 of the 9 sacks were on Darnold. Regardless if I'm a QB needy team, I'm taking Darnold over anything in the draft or FA. 

We'll know soon how they play it.


RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - medaille - 02-19-2025

(02-19-2025, 12:28 PM)JustInTime Wrote: To me, I'm asking for a Day 2 pick and a Day 3 pick next year that is tied to performance that moves up.

Stafford has zero guaranteed dollars

Purdy can't stay on the field.

He'd have similar production with those playcallers.

So, are they going to pay Stafford upwards of nearly $60? How about Purdy after a SB appearance already?

I think the market is bigger than you think.

Darnold definitely forget how to be decisive in his last two starts. KO's reaction after the game was to immediately to bring up the O Line. I'd say 6 of the 9 sacks were on Darnold. Regardless if I'm a QB needy team, I'm taking Darnold over anything in the draft or FA. 

We'll know soon how they play it.

Stafford is under contract through 2026 and has a $45M dead cap if traded, and $50M dead cap if cut.  If he retires, sure they would be in the market for a QB, but I just can't make it work for them to get rid of Stafford and bring in Darnold.  Darnolds cost is going to be too close to Stafford's cost to make the dead cap hit make sense.  I would expect them to run it back with Stafford, don't resign him, and try to make a play for a rookie QB in 2026.  Maybe offer him a one year extension.  Kind of the same play we did with Cousins.

I do think 49ers could be in play.  There's no way you pay Purdy $55M if Darnold is willing to take $40M.


RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - JustInTime - 02-19-2025

(02-19-2025, 12:47 PM)medaille Wrote: Stafford is under contract through 2026 and has a $45M dead cap if traded, and $50M dead cap if cut.  If he retires, sure they would be in the market for a QB, but I just can't make it work for them to get rid of Stafford and bring in Darnold.  Darnolds cost is going to be too close to Stafford's cost to make the dead cap hit make sense.  I would expect them to run it back with Stafford, don't resign him, and try to make a play for a rookie QB in 2026.  Maybe offer him a one year extension.  Kind of the same play we did with Cousins.

I do think 49ers could be in play.  There's no way you pay Purdy $55M if Darnold is willing to take $40M.

Good point. The last thing I heard was he has zero guaranteed money and didn't really look at his contract.

(02-19-2025, 12:17 PM)AGRforever Wrote: Exactly.  Vikings don't have any leverage.  He's not under contract.  If we tag him, we need all of this to happen:

A.  The Vikings have to be willing to potentially get left holding the bag and he returns at $45M next year.
B.  A team willing to sign him to a long term extension because nobody is trading for a 1 yr rental at $45m.....unless you're the Falcons.....
C.  A team willing to give up draft capital to make this all worth the effort.

My guess is no such team exists because they could just wait for us to not re-sign him. 

I think we'll give Danny Dimes $10-15M on a 1 year deal and roll with him and JJM.

How so? If nobody bites we remove the tag and he’s automatically a FA. We’re still on the hook?


RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - Knucklehead - 02-19-2025

(02-19-2025, 01:10 PM)JustInTime Wrote: Good point. The last thing I heard was he has zero guaranteed money and didn't really look at his contract.


How so? If nobody bites we remove the tag and he’s automatically a FA. We’re still on the hook?

If Darnold signs the tag then we're on the hook. We can only remove it & not be liable if he doesn't sign it.


RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - JustInTime - 02-19-2025

I thought once we place the tag, it goes against the cap regardless of if it’s signed.

I’m not a cap expert and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.


RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - comet52 - 02-19-2025

(02-19-2025, 02:03 PM)JustInTime Wrote: I thought once we place the tag, it goes against the cap regardless of if it’s signed.

I’m not a cap expert and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

It applies to the cap when you place it on a player but it doesn't become a binding contract until the player signs it.

It can be rescinded before he signs it but in that case the team cannot use the tag again that year.


RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - MaroonBells - 02-19-2025




RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - purplefaithful - 02-19-2025

I think it would paint the Vikings in a bad way if they cant find a way to get comp for a pro-bowl, 27 year old QB.

I aint saying it's easy or a slam-dunk, but that is my expectation.


RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - MaroonBells - 02-19-2025

(02-19-2025, 03:29 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: I think it would paint the Vikings in a bad way if they cant find a way to get comp for a pro-bowl, 27 year old QB.

I aint saying it's easy or a slam-dunk, but that is my expectation.

It's not my expectation, but it is my audacious hope. If we only had the foresight to sign Sam to a 2-year deal, we'd be sitting pretty right now.


RE: Darnold is currency. Use it. - JustInTime - 02-19-2025

Other than Matt Cassell, has a sign and trade been consummated?