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RE: Cap Expert Talks Vikings, Darnold, Other Free Agents - MaroonBells - 02-09-2025
(02-08-2025, 01:30 PM)Knucklehead Wrote: I don't see any team giving up their first round pick in a trade for Darnold. I say that for a couple of reasons. First, based on the Alex Smith trade from KC to Washington in 2018, KC received a 3rd round pick & CB, Kendall Fuller. Smith had a more consistent career than Darnold has had.
Second, any team trading for Darnold will need to sign him to a new contract. I may be incorrect on this point but I believe that if we slap the franchise tag on Darnold & he signs it, the floor of his new contract will be at least $41M. I've read this elsewhere as a reason that Darnold's camp would welcome the franchise tag. It would increase the starting point for a new contract.
Russell Wilson was 34 when he was traded to the Broncos for two 1sts and two 2nds. Desean Watson was facing major league problems when he was traded to Cleveland for three 1sts. The difference is, unlike those players, Darnold is not under contract, so he can only be traded if he's either extended or tagged.
So I think it would be more accurate to compare Darnold to Matt Cassell in 2009, the last time a QB was tagged and traded. Patriots received the #34 overall pick for Cassell and a mid-level player.
Can the Vikings get that for Sam? No idea, but I have a sneaking suspicion they won't tag him at all and just let him go get what he can on the open market.
RE: Cap Expert Talks Vikings, Darnold, Other Free Agents - purplefaithful - 02-09-2025
(02-09-2025, 05:51 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Looks like Kellen Moore is going to be HC of the Saints:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/saints-to-hire-kellen-moore-eagles-offensive-coordinator-will-reportedly-join-new-orleans-after-super-bowl/
Not the most desirable job, but still a HC.
He's a good coach, good offensive mind. Pass 1st guy who did an admirable job of evolving his play calling with that HOF tailback and the mix of players on that Eagles offense.
For some reason, his start wasn't as bright as it used to be?
RE: Cap Expert Talks Vikings, Darnold, Other Free Agents - Canthony - 02-09-2025
Basically waited to announce it till the day before the SB.
RE: Cap Expert Talks Vikings, Darnold, Other Free Agents - Bullazin - 02-09-2025
Late as usual to this convo, but that non exclusive franchise tag looks pretty tempting. If we got a second rounder out of this it would be huge for us this year.
I’m still torn on Sam going. He played so damn well. Did he peak? I don’t think so. It will be torture if he outperforms our choices at QB.
RE: Cap Expert Talks Vikings, Darnold, Other Free Agents - purplefaithful - 02-09-2025
(02-09-2025, 01:07 PM)Bullazin Wrote: Late as usual to this convo, but that non exclusive franchise tag looks pretty tempting. If we got a second rounder out of this it would be huge for us this year.
I’m still torn on Sam going. He played so damn well. Did he peak? I don’t think so. It will be torture if he outperforms our choices at QB.
Not as tortuous as being a Giants fan and watching Saquon today, but I get it.
I personally think Sam had the best situation here with this surround, coaching, culture etc...He's certainly not going to get that at a lot of the qb needy franchises.
Dont wish him nothing but the best, but my $ is he's peaked here.
I would be falling on a sword to keep him if we had won the North and gotten past the Wild Card Rd. Its not all on him, but a lot of it was.