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Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - purplefaithful - 08-26-2017
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan opposes President Trump's pardoning of former Sheriff Joe Arpaio, an aide said Saturday, joining Arizona GOP Sen. John McCain in criticizing the decision.
"The speaker does not agree with this decision,” said Doug Andres, a spokesman for Ryan. “Law enforcement officials have a special responsibility to respect the rights of everyone in the United States. We should not allow anyone to believe that responsibility is diminished by this pardon."
Trump on Friday spared Arpaio, from the Phoenix area, the prospect of serving jail time in granting the first presidential pardon of his turbulent tenure, wiping away the lawman's recent federal conviction stemming from his immigration patrols that focused on Latinos.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/26/arizona-republicans-mccain-franks-split-on-trumps-arpaio-pardon.html
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-26-2017
“The president has the authority to make this pardon, but doing so at this time undermines his claim for the respect of rule of law as Mr. Arpaio has shown no remorse for his actions,” McCain said after the Friday pardon announcement.
Amen Senator...
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-26-2017
Doesn't EVERY pardon undermine the respect for the rule of law?
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-28-2017
Quote: @purplefaithful said:Why should Arpaio 'show remorse' for upholding federal immigration law?
“The president has the authority to make this pardon, but doing so at this time undermines his claim for the respect of rule of law as Mr. Arpaio has shown no remorse for his actions,” McCain said after the Friday pardon announcement.
Amen Senator...
Remember... this case originates from Arpaio's decision to enforce federal immigration law. (Please ask for relevant history, glad to oblige)
Silly Joe... the Obama US Govt was no more inclined to enforce Obama immigration malfeasance, than the US Trump Govt is inclined to enforce Trump's IRS penalty on Obamacare.
WHO BROUGHT THIS CASE? The Obama DOJ. Purview: executive branch/Obama.
WHO DISMISSED IT? The Trump DOJ. Purview: executive branch/Trump. f
Some of you supposed conservatives need to learn a modicum (at least) of what that means in practice.
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-28-2017
Quote: @Max said:Pardons are a healthy Constitutional executive check/balance on the Judiciary.
Doesn't EVERY pardon undermine the respect for the rule of law?
Take it up with the Founding Fathers.
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-28-2017
Quote: @purplefaithful said:Amen?
“The president has the authority to make this pardon, but doing so at this time undermines his claim for the respect of rule of law as Mr. Arpaio has shown no remorse for his actions,” McCain said after the Friday pardon announcement.
Amen Senator...
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-28-2017
Just a stupid thing to get upset about. Pardons do not undermine the rule of law since it is the rule of law that allows the President to issue a pardon.
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-28-2017
Quote: @Max said:
Doesn't EVERY pardon undermine the respect for the rule of law?
not when democrats do them. did you hear any jooting and hollering when obama pardoned a bunch on his way out? what aboit clinton?
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-28-2017
Quote: @savannahskol said:
That was my point... if one pardon undermines the law, they all do. You can't pick and choose.@Max said:
Doesn't EVERY pardon undermine the respect for the rule of law? Pardons are a healthy Constitutional executive check/balance on the Judiciary.
Take it up with the Founding Fathers.
Ryan joins McCain in Opposing Trump on Arpaio Pardon... - Guest - 08-28-2017
Quote: @Max said:
Agreed. presidential pardons will always bring skepticism. And rightfully so IMO. I would like to think Trump got this one right as Savannah pointed out. Funny how the media never uttered a word about Obama's pardons.@savannahskol said:
That was my point... if one pardon undermines the law, they all do. You can't pick and choose.@Max said:
Doesn't EVERY pardon undermine the respect for the rule of law? Pardons are a healthy Constitutional executive check/balance on the Judiciary.
Take it up with the Founding Fathers.