How Does Xavier Rhodes Fit Into The Vikings Future?

There isn’t really a way I can see Xavier Rhodes getting out of MN at this point. Rhodes has been extremely complimentary of Zimmer’s coaching and ability to improve him as a player. There isn’t a reason to leave that type of environment if the team willing to pay competitive money. I’d imagine the Vikings FO would like to take a similar approach to extending players on their 5th year options and work a prorated portion of a signing bonus onto their 2017 cap.

If you want to start looking at what Rhodes is likely to get, roughly $13.5M over 5 year makes sense. That equates to a $67.5M deal with $27M in total guarantees. There will need to be an option date on the guarantees since the initial $8M from the 5th year option is originally guaranteed, but the Rhodes base salaries through year 3 would become guaranteed as the beginning of each league year. Hopefully that makes sense.

To play with the cap numbers assume the Vikings use a $10M signing bonus on the deal to prorate through. The terms layout as following:

Option Yr: Salary – $8,026,000 / Signing Bonus – $2,000,000 / Cap Hit – $10,026,000 / Dead Money – $27,000,0000

Contract Yr1: Salary – $8,500,000 / Signing Bonus – $2,000,000 / Cap Hit – $10,500,000 / Dead Money – $16,974,000  *base guaranteed 03/18

Contract Yr2: Salary – $9,000,000 / Signing Bonus – $2,000,000 / Cap Hit – $11,000,000 / Dead Money – $6,474,000  *base guaranteed 03/19 

Contract Yr3: Salary – $10,000,000 / Signing Bonus – $2,000,000 / Cap Hit – $12,000,000 / Dead Money – $4,000,000  *base guaranteed 03/20

Contract Yr4: Salary – $13,500,000 / Signing Bonus – $2,000,000 / Cap Hit – $15,500,000 / Dead Money – $2,000,000

Contract Yr5: Salary – $16,500,000 / Signing Bonus – $0 / Cap Hit – $16,500,000 / Dead Money – $0

 

When you rationally put the pieces together of the above deal, it ends up being more like a 4 year deal for Rhodes worth $46M. But what is represented is a contract the Vikings can fit on their books going forward.

16 thoughts on “How Does Xavier Rhodes Fit Into The Vikings Future?

  • Profile photo of Mike Olson
    March 14, 2017 at 10:49 am
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    This was a post that I pulled out of thread in the forums and published on our front page. 

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  • Profile photo of Jor-El
    March 14, 2017 at 10:54 am
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    That sounds like an excellent contract. But they need to do it. Yes, he likes Zimmerman, but if he has another great season and hits FA, he could get a monster offer and that always trumps liking a coach (especially a coach who might not be around). Vikings need to sign Rhodes.

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  • Profile photo of Viking Bob
    March 14, 2017 at 11:20 am
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    I would look into signing Malcolm Butler and Logan Ryan (before he signed with Tennessee) and traded him for a 1 and 4?  Butler is pretty equal to Rhodes and Ryan would have been a better replacement for Captain, AND we would have gotten some picks back for the draft

    Spielman needs to be more creative

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    March 14, 2017 at 11:23 am
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    Viking Bob said
    I would look into signing Malcolm Butler and Logan Ryan (before he signed with Tennessee) and traded him for a 1 and 4?  Butler is pretty equal to Rhodes and Ryan would have been a better replacement for Captain, AND we would have gotten some picks back for the draft

    Spielman needs to be more creative  

    Good points but there is something to be said for continuity. I wonder how Mac Alexander fits into the equation when it comes to losing Captain. I think that kid has the tools to take over there. he no doubt has the confidence for it. 

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  • Profile photo of JimmyinSD
    March 14, 2017 at 11:31 am
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    Viking Bob said
    I would look into signing Malcolm Butler and Logan Ryan (before he signed with Tennessee) and traded him for a 1 and 4?  Butler is pretty equal to Rhodes and Ryan would have been a better replacement for Captain, AND we would have gotten some picks back for the draft

    Spielman needs to be more creative  

    a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.  since FAs rarely improve on their new teams ( or even play up to their previous levels) I will stick with Rhodes as long as he would take a deal like the one laid out.   if he is looking for an average north of 15 per year then that would be a different story,  but 4 years at about 11 to 12 a year… stick with what we have IMO.  draft picks are over rated.

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    March 14, 2017 at 11:32 am
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    Viking Bob said
    I would look into signing Malcolm Butler and Logan Ryan (before he signed with Tennessee) and traded him for a 1 and 4?  Butler is pretty equal to Rhodes and Ryan would have been a better replacement for Captain, AND we would have gotten some picks back for the draft

    Spielman needs to be more creative  

    How is Butler equal to Rhodes? 

     

    I know butler had a good year, but physically I don’t think he is in the same category as Rhodes.

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  • Profile photo of Viking Bob
    March 14, 2017 at 12:05 pm
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    Mike Olson said

    Good points but there is something to be said for continuity. I wonder how Mac Alexander fits into the equation when it comes to losing Captain. I think that kid has the tools to take over there. he no doubt has the confidence for it.   

    even if Alexander does have the confidence and tools, we still need some depth, and if X wants Gilmore like money, we will lose him for a comp pick

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    March 14, 2017 at 12:07 pm
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    JimmyinSD said

    a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.  since FAs rarely improve on their new teams ( or even play up to their previous levels) I will stick with Rhodes as long as he would take a deal like the one laid out.   if he is looking for an average north of 15 per year then that would be a different story,  but 4 years at about 11 to 12 a year… stick with what we have IMO.  draft picks are over rated.  

     

    and if he wants money like what Gilmore just got, we lose him and get a Comp pick… 

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    March 14, 2017 at 12:10 pm
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    greediron said

    How is Butler equal to Rhodes? 

     

    I know butler had a good year, but physically I don’t think he is in the same category as Rhodes.  

    I guess you don’t watch many Pats games?  you’re lucky… anyway, Butler is a pretty good shutdown corner, just ask Antonio Brown, he may not have the size of Rhodes, but gets the job done, and if X wants like 15 million a year, we only get a comp pick back, I will take a 1 and a 4 instead

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    March 14, 2017 at 12:11 pm
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    Viking Bob said

     

    and if he wants money like what Gilmore just got, we lose him and get a Comp pick…   

     

    why would we wait until he has no trade value to rework his deal?   if they start working on an extension soon,  he could still be traded if his asking price is determined to be to high,  but for now…  I think they need to work on keeping him in purple long term.

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  • Profile photo of Viking Bob
    March 14, 2017 at 12:28 pm
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    JimmyinSD said

     

    why would we wait until he has no trade value to rework his deal?   if they start working on an extension soon,  he could still be traded if his asking price is determined to be to high,  but for now…  I think they need to work on keeping him in purple long term.  

    Or we just Tag him next year and then trade him, if we sign him to a high priced contract, that almost makes him untradeable too

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    March 14, 2017 at 12:35 pm
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    Viking Bob said

    I guess you don’t watch many Pats games?  you’re lucky… anyway, Butler is a pretty good shutdown corner, just ask Antonio Brown, he may not have the size of Rhodes, but gets the job done, and if X wants like 15 million a year, we only get a comp pick back, I will take a 1 and a 4 instead  

    Um, wasn’t he destroyed by Julio Jones in the Super Bowl prompting old Belicheat to go sign a taller CB that most consider to be a better player? 

    Butler is a good CB,.but he’s no Rhodes yet and his size will always be a concern when taking on bigger WRs.

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    March 14, 2017 at 1:15 pm
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    Viking Bob said

    Or we just Tag him next year and then trade him, if we sign him to a high priced contract, that almost makes him untradeable too  

    why would we trade him if we get him to sign a deal that works for the team?  that makes no sense.  if he would do a deal for around 11 a year,  why would you get rid of one of the best CBs in the business when you have to face erin rogers and matt stafford 4 games every year?

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  • Profile photo of NFL Draft Guru
    March 14, 2017 at 2:08 pm
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    Its a moot point to discuss alternatives to Rhodes, he will be back. 

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  • Profile photo of Viking Bob
    March 14, 2017 at 2:56 pm
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    NFL Draft Guru said
    Its a moot point to discuss alternatives to Rhodes, he will be back.   

    Well, you’re no fun, its always fun to debate options that the team could do, but Spielman doesn’t seem to have a creative mind. 

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  • Profile photo of JimmyinSD
    March 14, 2017 at 2:57 pm
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    Viking Bob said

    Well, you’re no fun, its always fun to debate options that the team could do, but Spielman doesn’t seem to have a creative mind.   

    trader rick doesnt have a creative mind?  most of the fan proposed stuff is so madden or fantasy football that if they were a GM they would be out of work pretty damn quick.

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