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#1 OFFLINE   SmashmouthD

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:44 AM

This guy on Twitter writes that we might be trading one of our former first-round picks, and to watch the New Orleans and New England deal.

 

Trading Treadwell would at least explain why we're going after WRs.

 

Thoughts?

 

https://twitter.com/...041249646215172

 

 



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:49 AM

I doubt its Treadwell... 

 

 

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:49 AM

Everyone has a price. But there is no real reason to consider trading Treadwell. 


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:55 AM

There isn't enough tape on him. We wouldn't get much. Maybe Jarius Wright if Diggs is going to be full time slot.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:59 AM

Everyone has a price. But there is no real reason to consider trading Treadwell. 

yeah, no reason is exactly it.  The return would be low.  He is young, has talent, just needs to figure the game out a little.

 

I think the interest in WRs is simply to call Thielen's bluff.  And a message to CP that we are prepared to move on



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:59 AM

There isn't enough tape on him. We wouldn't get much. Maybe Jarius Wright if Diggs is going to be full time slot.

 

not  a former first rounder.

 

Barr

Rhodes

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:00 AM

What other first-rounder would we trade?

 

Floyd

Barr

Kendricks

Smith

Rhodes

 

If we trade anyone but Floyd, I will lose my sh*t.

 

And why should we watch the Brandin Crooks deal between NE and NO?

 

 

Oh and Teddy.


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:03 AM

I could see us trading Barr


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:07 AM

I could see us trading Barr

 

although that wouldnt explain our interest in a WR, although I think the WR thing says more about Diggs being iffy in terms of week in week out production,  AT... ?,  Treadwell... who knows,  CJ...will he even be here?,  CPatt...?who knows,   JW...decent posession guy,  but not a 1 or 2.  we need to improve the position.

 

but the trading a first rounder has me curious.  maybe somebody doesnt realize that CPatt is a FA?


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:09 AM

I'd gladly trade Treadwell.  Thought he was a bad pick and still do.  Even if you just get a 2 back, you can use that to draft a better WR or help on the OL or DB or anywhere.  I wouldn't complain about trading Barr either.  Too soft.  I wouldn't feel comfortable re-signing him to a big deal.  


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:11 AM

I would guess Floyd. As I mentioned in another thread, he should have some pretty solid trade value. Christ, he's only 24 years old. There are players in the 2017 draft the same age. Flashes real talent, but can't put it all together. Plus, didn't help that he boiled Zimmer's blood last year. But could he pass a physical, which is required for every trade to go through? Last I heard he STILL wasn't healthy. 

 

Dunno. Just spitballing. 


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:12 AM

In this draft class I wouldn't mind trading Waynes either.  I like a lot of CBs in this draft a lot more than him.  But some may love that elite speed rather than COD and skill, so perhaps another team would value him enough to trade for him even though this draft is loaded.  I doubt anything comes of any of this.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:21 AM

If they want to get the most value then the only one is Rhodes.

 

He should get you a 1st round pick in return.

 

Not sure of anyone else.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:25 AM

Likely Floyd. Waynes will be a stud long term and is grievously underrated by fans in my opinion. It would take a boatload for someone to get Barr. Smith is an elite safety in the prime of his career with a long term friendly contract. Floyd just makes the most sense. When he plays he is good. Again an underrated guy. I'm not sure why Treadwell would even enter the conversation as we don't know what we have yet. It can take rookie WR's time to adjust to the NFL. Especially when the team is changing philosophies and coordinators mid season. Exacting routes is also a tall order. Guys like Diggs already had those skills coming out, but that is not the usual case.
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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:25 AM

If they want to get the most value then the only one is Rhodes.

 

He should get you a 1st round pick in return.

 

Not sure of anyone else.

 

I would rather have Rhodes.

 

 

I bet we were shopping Floyd, which Geoff mentioned in the Floyd thread, and this guy picked up on it.

 

Maybe New Orleans getting rid of Crooks was the key to them having cap room for Floyd.

 

All rank (RANK!) speculation.  


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:36 AM

I would rather have Rhodes.

 

 

I bet we were shopping Floyd, which Geoff mentioned in the Floyd thread, and this guy picked up on it.

 

Maybe New Orleans getting rid of Crooks was the key to them having cap room for Floyd.

 

All rank (RANK!) speculation.  

 

Well, you could be right but if the Vikings are trying to emulate the Patriots then maybe they make sign a CB like Morris Claiborne and bring back Capt.

 

Then trade Rhodes for a 1st probably saving cap space in the long run because Rhodes is going to get at least 15 mil per year if not more.

 

 

If they do plan on keeping Rhodes then I would suggest they get busy negotiating an extension NOW!



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:40 AM

Would be near crazy to trade either Rhodes or Waynes. I wouldn't rule out Treadwell, but that seems unlikely after only one year. That leaves Barr and Floyd. Barr would bring a lot in trade, but big trades like that are so rare. If there's any truth to this, it's gotta be Floyd. I could see him wrapped in a package for a left tackle. Say Floyd and a 4th for Joe Thomas. Or somehow part of the Garappolo trade with the Patriots and Browns? There was a lot of talk around the time Floyd was drafted that he would be better suited as a 5-tech. 


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:00 PM

Floyd would make the most sense to trade. High cap number and seems like he's not part of the long term plans, but could have value elsewhere. I know his contract is fully guaranteed now, but I am not sure what the cap implications are of trading him.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:18 PM

Would Floyd pass a physical?

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:03 PM

We're trading Floyd and a 4th-rounder to Cleveland to get them to absorb his cap hit...


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UPDATE ibps_ccs_template_blocks SET tpb_content='<php>ob_start();\n$this->DB->query( \"SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15\" );\r\n\r\nprint \"\r\n\r\n <style>\r\n #newsMarquee A{\r\n color: #ffffff;\r\n }\r\n\r\n </style>\r\n <marquee id=\'newsMarquee\' behavior=\'scroll\' direction=\'left\' \r\n onmouseover=\'this.stop();\' \r\n onmouseout=\'this.start();\'\r\n SCROLLamount=3\r\n \r\n bgcolor=\'#000000\'\r\n>\r\n\";\r\n\r\nwhile( $r = $this->DB->fetch() )\r\n{\r\n\r\n $url=\"http://{parse block=\'siteurl\'}/index.php?/topic/\".$r[\'tid\'].\"-\".$r[\'title_seo\'];\r\n print \"<a href=\'\".$url.\"\' target=\'_blank\'>\".$r[\'title\'].\"</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\";\r\n}\r\nprint \"\r\n </marquee>\r\n\";\n$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();\nob_end_clean();</php>' WHERE tpb_id=64

INSERT INTO ibps_ccs_template_cache (`cache_type`,`cache_type_id`,`cache_content`) VALUES('block',64,'/* -- block__custom_50 --*/\nfunction block__custom_50($title=\"\",$content=\"\") {\n$IPBHTML = \"\";\n\nob_start();\n$this->DB->query( \"SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15\" );\r\n\r\nprint \"\r\n\r\n <style>\r\n #newsMarquee A{\r\n color: #ffffff;\r\n }\r\n\r\n </style>\r\n <marquee id=\'newsMarquee\' behavior=\'scroll\' direction=\'left\' \r\n onmouseover=\'this.stop();\' \r\n onmouseout=\'this.start();\'\r\n SCROLLamount=3\r\n \r\n bgcolor=\'#000000\'\r\n>\r\n\";\r\n\r\nwhile( $r = $this->DB->fetch() )\r\n{\r\n\r\n $url=\"http://{parse block=\'siteurl\'}/index.php?/topic/\".$r[\'tid\'].\"-\".$r[\'title_seo\'];\r\n print \"<a href=\'\".$url.\"\' target=\'_blank\'>\".$r[\'title\'].\"</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\";\r\n}\r\nprint \"\r\n </marquee>\r\n\";\n$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();\nob_end_clean();\n$IPBHTML .= \"\";\nreturn $IPBHTML;\n}\n') ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_type=VALUES(cache_type),cache_type_id=VALUES(cache_type_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content)

SELECT cache_content FROM ibps_ccs_template_cache WHERE cache_type='full'

SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15

SELECT * FROM ibps_ccs_template_blocks WHERE tpb_name='block__custom_53'

UPDATE ibps_ccs_template_blocks SET tpb_content='<php>ob_start();\necho\"www.vikefans.com\";\n$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();\nob_end_clean();</php>' WHERE tpb_id=67

INSERT INTO ibps_ccs_template_cache (`cache_type`,`cache_type_id`,`cache_content`) VALUES('block',67,'/* -- block__custom_53 --*/\nfunction block__custom_53($title=\"\",$content=\"\") {\n$IPBHTML = \"\";\n\nob_start();\necho\"www.vikefans.com\";\n$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();\nob_end_clean();\n$IPBHTML .= \"\";\nreturn $IPBHTML;\n}\n') ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_type=VALUES(cache_type),cache_type_id=VALUES(cache_type_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content)

SELECT * FROM ibps_cache_store WHERE cs_key IN ( 'blogmods' )

SELECT * FROM ibps_blog_this WHERE bt_app='forums' AND bt_id1=59899

SHUTDOWN: INSERT INTO ibps_sessions (`id`,`member_name`,`member_id`,`member_group`,`login_type`,`running_time`,`ip_address`,`browser`,`in_error`,`current_appcomponent`,`current_module`,`current_section`,`location_1_type`,`location_1_id`,`location_2_type`,`location_2_id`,`location_3_type`,`location_3_id`,`uagent_key`,`uagent_version`,`uagent_type`,`uagent_bypass`) VALUES('5a0a676552343340a0a3bc749772dadc','',0,2,0,1711705817,'18.207.98.249','claudebot',0,'forums','forums','topics','topic',59899,'forum',0,'',0,'__NONE__',0,'',0)

SHUTDOWN: INSERT INTO ibps_topic_views (`views_tid`) VALUES(59899)