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#21 OFFLINE   Tyr

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:43 PM

WTF is going on????

 

A lot of teams are desperate for OTs and this isn't a good OT class in the draft. So desperation plus competition and teams having cap space creates these monster deals for questionable players. LT is a critical spot, so teams are willing to take big risks.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:43 PM

What about Clady....is he available? Geez, we need a LT.

maybe Fluker?



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:44 PM

Although I was told that the plan was to use Reiff as a RT, I guess you should chalk him in at LT until they make another roster move. 



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:46 PM

Crazy crazy money for oft injured Okung.
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:47 PM

Although I was told that the plan was to use Reiff as a RT, I guess you should chalk him in at LT until they make another roster move.


Any word on the contract details for Reiff?
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:48 PM

Crazy crazy money for oft injured Okung.

nucking futs.  $13+ mill a year.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:49 PM

The Viking have stuck to the prices they have set on FA's. To be completely honest, that is what you need to be doing. 

i understand the business side of it, but the football side of it, man do we need a damn LT.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:50 PM

How come there has been very little in the rumor mill about Beachum?  He played his way back from the ACL last year.  He's on slightly the smallish side for a LT but he was certainly an up and comer with Pittsburgh.  I read that he played through knee pain last year...maybe it's a medical thing and the teams need to check him out.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:50 PM

nucking futs.  $13+ mill a year.

Both he and Kalil are way overvalued....we need an LT but to pay that kind of money to either of those two guys seems ridiculous to me..


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:54 PM

Both he and Kalil are way overvalued....we need an LT but to pay that kind of money to either of those two guys seems ridiculous to me..


Yep... I know we all want "names" at these positions to make us feel better... But the reality is that Okung and Kalil are average at best options that are getting paid like top LTs.

I'm curious to see what Reiff's contract looks like... I would be totally fine slotting him in at LT this season if we can add another RT. He can probably do just as good a job as both those guys and will be on a cheaper deal.
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:55 PM

Both he and Kalil are way overvalued....we need an LT but to pay that kind of money to either of those two guys seems ridiculous to me..

 

That is the thing. You can need a LT but if someone else is going to give them funny money, you're better off finding an alternative. 


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:56 PM

Yep... I know we all want "names" at these positions to make us feel better... But the reality is that Okung and Kalil are average at best options that are getting paid like top LTs.

I'm curious to see what Reiff's contract looks like... I would be totally fine slotting him in at LT this season if we can add another RT. He can probably do just as good a job as both those guys and will be on a cheaper deal.

 

I don't have the terms yet, but you summed up free agency as a whole. You get average players are premium prices. 



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:56 PM

I'm curious about a Reiff too because I consider him a better player than the other two. Hope we didn't go crazy.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:57 PM

I wouldn't even call them premium. More like irrational lol!

I don't have the terms yet, but you summed up free agency as a whole. You get average players are premium prices.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:00 PM

I'm curious about a Reiff too because I consider him a better player than the other two. Hope we didn't go crazy.

You would assume we're paying him at RT money and Wagner just set the mark there at $9M per year.  Reiff's not as good as Wagner.  The Lions agree btw since they let Reiff go and signed Wagner.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:01 PM

I don't have the terms yet, but you summed up free agency as a whole. You get average players are premium prices. 

What about Fleming an RFA in NE....he has a fourth rd tender for $1.8M.....number is right but the 4th is high....any thought here Geoff?


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:03 PM

Although I was told that the plan was to use Reiff as a RT, I guess you should chalk him in at LT until they make another roster move. 

 

Yeah, that is where his position flexibility is nice. His best spot is at RT, but with LT options looking bleak at the moment, he should still be better than what we had last year. Will be interesting to see if the pursue Beachum or who they consider the next option down the line. May be wise to just go after a guard now and stabilize what we can before the draft.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:04 PM

Melenik Watson come on down. Figure out who is going to play which tackle position.

Lock in Warmack or Lang at RG

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:05 PM

What about Fleming an RFA in NE....he has a fourth rd tender for $1.8M.....number is right but the 4th is high....any thought here Geoff?

 

I would completely onboard with Flemming, I like him. RFA's are hard because its tough to value a contract that wouldn't get matched, plus you're giving up a 4th round pick. 



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:08 PM

Melenik Watson come on down. Figure out who is going to play which tackle position.

Lock in Warmack or Lang at RG

 

Warmack already signed with the Eagles:






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SELECT tg.* ,t.*, t.approved, t.title as topic_title, t.posts as topic_posts, t.last_post as topic_last_post,m.*,p.*,xxx.* FROM ibps_core_tags tg LEFT JOIN ibps_topics t ON (t.tid=tg.tag_meta_id) LEFT JOIN ibps_members m ON (last_poster_id=m.member_id) LEFT JOIN ibps_profile_portal p ON (p.pp_member_id=m.member_id) LEFT JOIN ibps_core_tags_cache xxx ON (xxx.tag_cache_key=MD5(CONCAT('forums',';','topics',';',t.tid))) WHERE tg.tag_meta_app='forums' AND tg.tag_meta_area='topics' AND tg.tag_meta_id !=59880 AND tg.tag_text IN ('on topic') AND tg.tag_aai_lookup IN (SELECT tag_perm_aai_lookup FROM ibps_core_tags_perms WHERE ( ( FIND_IN_SET(2,tag_perm_text) ) OR ( tag_perm_text='*' ) ) AND tag_perm_visible=1 ) ORDER BY tg.tag_meta_id desc LIMIT 0,100

SELECT m.*, m.member_id as my_member_id,p.*,pp.*,g.*,ccb.cache_content FROM ibps_members m LEFT JOIN ibps_pfields_content p ON ( p.member_id=m.member_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_profile_portal pp ON ( pp.pp_member_id=m.member_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_groups g ON ( g.g_id=m.member_group_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_content_cache_sigs ccb ON ( ccb.cache_content_id=m.member_id ) WHERE m.member_id IN (6,36,1806)

SELECT m.*, m.member_id as my_member_id,p.*,pp.*,g.*,ccb.cache_content FROM ibps_members m LEFT JOIN ibps_pfields_content p ON ( p.member_id=m.member_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_profile_portal pp ON ( pp.pp_member_id=m.member_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_groups g ON ( g.g_id=m.member_group_id ) LEFT JOIN ibps_content_cache_sigs ccb ON ( ccb.cache_content_id=m.member_id ) WHERE m.member_id=1133

SELECT b.*,t.tpb_name FROM ibps_ccs_blocks b LEFT JOIN ibps_ccs_template_blocks t ON ( t.tpb_id=b.block_template ) WHERE b.block_active=1

SELECT * FROM ibps_ccs_template_blocks WHERE tpb_name='block__custom_50'

UPDATE ibps_ccs_template_blocks SET tpb_content='<php>ob_start();\n$this->DB->query( \"SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15\" );\r\n\r\nprint \"\r\n\r\n <style>\r\n #newsMarquee A{\r\n color: #ffffff;\r\n }\r\n\r\n </style>\r\n <marquee id=\'newsMarquee\' behavior=\'scroll\' direction=\'left\' \r\n onmouseover=\'this.stop();\' \r\n onmouseout=\'this.start();\'\r\n SCROLLamount=3\r\n \r\n bgcolor=\'#000000\'\r\n>\r\n\";\r\n\r\nwhile( $r = $this->DB->fetch() )\r\n{\r\n\r\n $url=\"http://{parse block=\'siteurl\'}/index.php?/topic/\".$r[\'tid\'].\"-\".$r[\'title_seo\'];\r\n print \"<a href=\'\".$url.\"\' target=\'_blank\'>\".$r[\'title\'].\"</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\";\r\n}\r\nprint \"\r\n </marquee>\r\n\";\n$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();\nob_end_clean();</php>' WHERE tpb_id=64

INSERT INTO ibps_ccs_template_cache (`cache_type`,`cache_type_id`,`cache_content`) VALUES('block',64,'/* -- block__custom_50 --*/\nfunction block__custom_50($title=\"\",$content=\"\") {\n$IPBHTML = \"\";\n\nob_start();\n$this->DB->query( \"SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15\" );\r\n\r\nprint \"\r\n\r\n <style>\r\n #newsMarquee A{\r\n color: #ffffff;\r\n }\r\n\r\n </style>\r\n <marquee id=\'newsMarquee\' behavior=\'scroll\' direction=\'left\' \r\n onmouseover=\'this.stop();\' \r\n onmouseout=\'this.start();\'\r\n SCROLLamount=3\r\n \r\n bgcolor=\'#000000\'\r\n>\r\n\";\r\n\r\nwhile( $r = $this->DB->fetch() )\r\n{\r\n\r\n $url=\"http://{parse block=\'siteurl\'}/index.php?/topic/\".$r[\'tid\'].\"-\".$r[\'title_seo\'];\r\n print \"<a href=\'\".$url.\"\' target=\'_blank\'>\".$r[\'title\'].\"</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\";\r\n}\r\nprint \"\r\n </marquee>\r\n\";\n$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();\nob_end_clean();\n$IPBHTML .= \"\";\nreturn $IPBHTML;\n}\n') ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_type=VALUES(cache_type),cache_type_id=VALUES(cache_type_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content)

SELECT cache_content FROM ibps_ccs_template_cache WHERE cache_type='full'

SELECT * from ibps_topics where ibps_topics.forum_id in (2,15) and ibps_topics.starter_id = 58 order by start_date DESC limit 15

SELECT * FROM ibps_ccs_template_blocks WHERE tpb_name='block__custom_53'

UPDATE ibps_ccs_template_blocks SET tpb_content='<php>ob_start();\necho\"www.vikefans.com\";\n$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();\nob_end_clean();</php>' WHERE tpb_id=67

INSERT INTO ibps_ccs_template_cache (`cache_type`,`cache_type_id`,`cache_content`) VALUES('block',67,'/* -- block__custom_53 --*/\nfunction block__custom_53($title=\"\",$content=\"\") {\n$IPBHTML = \"\";\n\nob_start();\necho\"www.vikefans.com\";\n$IPBHTML .= ob_get_contents();\nob_end_clean();\n$IPBHTML .= \"\";\nreturn $IPBHTML;\n}\n') ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_type=VALUES(cache_type),cache_type_id=VALUES(cache_type_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content)

SELECT * FROM ibps_cache_store WHERE cs_key IN ( 'blogmods' )

SELECT * FROM ibps_blog_this WHERE bt_app='forums' AND bt_id1=59880

SHUTDOWN: INSERT INTO ibps_sessions (`id`,`member_name`,`member_id`,`member_group`,`login_type`,`running_time`,`ip_address`,`browser`,`in_error`,`current_appcomponent`,`current_module`,`current_section`,`location_1_type`,`location_1_id`,`location_2_type`,`location_2_id`,`location_3_type`,`location_3_id`,`uagent_key`,`uagent_version`,`uagent_type`,`uagent_bypass`) VALUES('6bd74339e1a3891481a7ac660ad49485','',0,2,0,1711640237,'52.205.159.48','claudebot',0,'forums','forums','topics','topic',59880,'forum',0,'',0,'__NONE__',0,'',0)

SHUTDOWN: INSERT INTO ibps_topic_views (`views_tid`) VALUES(59880)