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#41 OFFLINE   Makinjuice

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:11 PM

Are you serious, we couldn't bring this guy in for $2 million??? He was a starter on one of the best OL in the game last year

Ok. It's Lang and Watson. Get those two and the AoL rebuild has serious merit

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#42 OFFLINE   Tyr Re: Okung to the Chargers

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:15 PM

As Guru mentioned earlier, the Chargers are being accused of tampering with Russell Okung. Not sure what the fall out would be:



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:17 PM

As Guru mentioned earlier, the Chargers are being accused of tampering with Russell Okung. Not sure what the fall out would be:

 

I'm assuming they would lose a draft pick if found guilty. The Chiefs lost a 3rd and a 6th for tampering with Jeremy Maclin two years ago. 


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:31 PM

Has Beachum signed anywhere yet?  Are they interested if he is available still?

 

He would be my target now.  He has a few years of NFL experience at LT, contract probably palatable and he has played at a fairly high level in the past so you know he can.  Now he is well over a year past the ACL.  


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:54 PM

A lot of teams are desperate for OTs and this isn't a good OT class in the draft. So desperation plus competition and teams having cap space creates these monster deals for questionable players. LT is a critical spot, so teams are willing to take big risks.

 

 

Sorry Tyr, I should've been more specific...I was referring to the wrong info LaCanfora tweeted out causing confusion over where Okung was signing.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:25 PM

I hope Sugarman is looking at Mangold's health records...



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:37 PM

We dodged a bullet here. I know I always say there's no stupid money because it's ALL stupid money, but this is stupid money. No, it's stupid with four OOOOs. STOOOOPID money. 12M over 3 years for Whitworth, one of the best left tackles in the game. 13.5M for Okung, who has never actually been a good left tackle. Ever. He was a mild bust in Seattle. Went to Denver and they got pretty much what Seattle got. 

 

This is a head scratcher. I get that he's got a good pedigree. And I get that he's still young. But man, what am I missing? Was there an injury that has since gone away that would justify this kind of payday? Its nuts. 


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:26 PM

We dodged a bullet here. I know I always say there's no stupid money because it's ALL stupid money, but this is stupid money. No, it's stupid with four OOOOs. STOOOOPID money. 12M over 3 years for Whitworth, one of the best left tackles in the game. 13.5M for Okung, who has never actually been a good left tackle. Ever. He was a mild bust in Seattle. Went to Denver and they got pretty much what Seattle got. 

 

This is a head scratcher. I get that he's got a good pedigree. And I get that he's still young. But man, what am I missing? Was there an injury that has since gone away that would justify this kind of payday? Its nuts. 

 

I agree 100%

 

What is disturbing is that the Vikings were in deep on talks to give Okung and Kalil stupid money.

 

Apparently, they were not as deep into the Whitworth talks.  Amazing.

 

Reiff is a nice signing but it is interesting that the Lions wanted Wagner instead.

 

 

Now people are saying Reiff is better.  Maybe they felt that way all along.  But I don't know.

 

The Ravens did not have cap space like the Lions and prioritized other positions.

 

The Lions had the cap space and passed.

 

 

Still, Reiff is an upgrade.

 

 

I think the next two players they should consider are Austin Pasztor and Mike Remmers.

 

Not top tier but decent veterans.  Probably could get them for around 5 or 6 mil.


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:14 AM

With that $$$, I'm thrilled we DIDN'T sign Okung.  Guy has been Kalil-esque the past couple years.

 

"Okung"... the sound made by his man hitting the quarterback.



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:52 AM

I don't know if Reiff was an upgrade over Wagner. I did feel Wagner was being overvalued. He has been inconsistent until his contract year - always makes me nervous. Reiff on the other hand is a more known commodity. He is an decent player at both LT and RT. Huge upgrade for us lol! I think he's going to come in cheaper and be equally effective. I'm not sure if the Lions let Reiff get away or if he wanted to come back home. Heck, the guy lives like a mile west of me here in Sioux Falls. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he eyed Minny ahead of time.


I agree 100%
 
What is disturbing is that the Vikings were in deep on talks to give Okung and Kalil stupid money.
 
Apparently, they were not as deep into the Whitworth talks.  Amazing.
 
Reiff is a nice signing but it is interesting that the Lions wanted Wagner instead.
 
 
Now people are saying Reiff is better.  Maybe they felt that way all along.  But I don't know.
 
The Ravens did not have cap space like the Lions and prioritized other positions.
 
The Lions had the cap space and passed.
 
 
Still, Reiff is an upgrade.
 
 
I think the next two players they should consider are Austin Pasztor and Mike Remmers.
 
Not top tier but decent veterans.  Probably could get them for around 5 or 6 mil.


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 02:05 AM

I agree 100%

 

What is disturbing is that the Vikings were in deep on talks to give Okung and Kalil stupid money.

 

Apparently, they were not as deep into the Whitworth talks.  Amazing.

 

Reiff is a nice signing but it is interesting that the Lions wanted Wagner instead.

 

 

Now people are saying Reiff is better.  Maybe they felt that way all along.  But I don't know.

 

The Ravens did not have cap space like the Lions and prioritized other positions.

 

The Lions had the cap space and passed.

 

 

Still, Reiff is an upgrade.

 

 

I think the next two players they should consider are Austin Pasztor and Mike Remmers.

 

Not top tier but decent veterans.  Probably could get them for around 5 or 6 mil.

 

I have no idea if the Vikings were in on Whitworth and he just chose LA over Minnesota, BUT they better have been.  With the price he got vs guys like Okung and Kalil, its mind blowing that they wouldn't have been.  Were talking about 2 LT's that have missed several games, and been bottom 10 tackles for the past 3-4 years vs a guy that has been a top 5 LT and missed 2 games in his career.  Its a no brainer, and its upsetting that we didn't offer even more than what he got with LA, considering whats been reported that we offered for Kalil.

 

I couldn't agree more with Pasztor and Remmers.  I think Pasztor would be the better of the two and that would mean leaving Reiff on the left side.  Still a slight upgrade over what weve had the past few years.  I also wouldn't mind singing Beachum to a 1-2 year deal to compete with Hill, IF we wanted to put Reiff back on the right side.


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 04:56 AM

Reiff playing LT for Minnesota is a brutal revelation to me as a fan because he's bad at that spot. Word was early after the signing it was for RT, which I like him at much better, but that's not what is being said now.


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